Invalid Ellis From L4D2 - Report Abuse

[Metroidz]

Y'all probably make Death Run a terrible place to play....

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

Y'all probably make Death Run a terrible place to play....

Yeah I agree people just have problems that they don’t like the map they hate and the map is played

And yes a lot of player have problem on deathrun

 

[Zerami]

Probablemente hagan de Death Run un lugar terrible para jugar...

You can't imagine how terrible you can be when people have to play Hawk Tuah and Berlin.

 

[gala]

You know we would just mark the voteabuse report invalid if there's not enough evidence? This report is also pointless

 

[Percilius]

An administrator I would like to hear from regarding this report is @Percilius.

Long time no see. If you remember who I am, I was one of the scunts (Timmy Tuff Knuckles, Zyral [Known as PomniMann] included) that you asked to stop panning in dr_lazytown back in July. I took action on your request and halted my ways since. If you do not remember, here is Timmy's ban that you enforced.

There was a report of griefing by the nature of the room when it was occurring. Though he stopped, Timmy did not and continued after the confrontation. This ultimately led to disciplinary action at the time. There has only been a suggestion to remove the frying pan of which has still not been actioned upon to this date. Nowhere in the rules does it explicitly state that panning is not allowed. Perhaps the only rule that could reach an understanding is this:

• Don't be annoying/toxic. If you are bothering people and making them leave, you will be muted.

Timmy was not muted in the event.
My intentions are not to shed negative light on this. But rather, recognize the importance of the nature of the room in given circumstances. Reach an understanding of how interaction or communication can create irritability if mishandled.

Within this report, the same approach is used here in muting. Some players did not prefer listening to the user collectively.
You could have those who claim abuse, like the panning scouts. While those who voted Yes: (top to bottom)

DEATH RUN | US ████

08/12/2025 - 01:25:59 PM

🔗Hoovy Area

so ellis stop bitching over me liking a map that is probably one of the best old skial dr maps that have been removed by buttig

DEATH RUN | US ████

08/12/2025 - 01:26:18 PM

🔗Hoovy Area

i cant shut my mouth , cause im not talking

DEATH RUN | US ████

08/12/2025 - 01:28:54 PM

🔗Sprunk

idk man i keep gettign migrains everytime he talks

DEATH RUN | US ████

08/12/2025 - 01:30:55 PM

🔗Sprunk

i don't mind pq its just ellis laking manners

DEATH RUN | US ████

08/12/2025 - 01:32:39 PM

🔗Nyx

everyone voted to mute him

Bear in mind that most of the votes are not in the forums. I do not speak for them whatsoever.
If there is an understanding that the vote was not genuine, the vote would not pass. Just like his last report for vote abuse.

My concern from this is clear. If the report becomes invalid, this will serve as a gateway for future reports to be omitted if occurrences happen again. Granting them immunity to disrespect users at will, despite the room not being capable of reaching a compromise.

To maintain the formality of the report, I will await a response from Leadership.

I don't get this report, there's no evidence pointing to the fact that he's abusing the report system.
Also, the ban I put forth that day was done after the fact that I asked you guys to stop. And yes, thats the rule I used as a reason for it.

 

[Winnie]

You know we would just mark the voteabuse report invalid if there's not enough evidence? This report is also pointless

That can be understandable, but there is no standard for recognizing report abuse from the user's standpoint until it happens.
Nothing to refer to thread-wise, as far as I know. This is all there is.

I don't get this report, there's no evidence pointing to the fact that he's abusing the report system.
Also, the ban I put forth that day was done after the fact that I asked you guys to stop. And yes, thats the rule I used as a reason for it.

Generating a fraudulent report?

• Spamming. Examples:
  • Advertising other TF2 servers or Skial competitors.
  • Telling people to boycott Skial.
  • Reporting people that aren't breaking the rules.
  • Calling random votes, even on yourself.
  • Music is not allowed on voice chat.

That was done, but griefing does not list using pans as a violation.

• Griefing Examples:
  • Blocking sniper views
  • Teleporter traps
  • Dying on purpose in Zombie Escape after autoinfection ends.

I'm not making an exception because I am aware how pans can be quite annoying.
But for those reading from the outside, they won't know. It needs to be updated to list under griefing.

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

I don't get this report, there's no evidence pointing to the fact that he's abusing the report system.
Also, the ban I put forth that day was done after the fact that I asked you guys to stop. And yes, thats the rule I used as a reason for it.

The person on the video it show that he was vote abusing and I have the video of it on my report

So this is not considered as report abuse

 

[Scariko-ly]

I don't get this report, there's no evidence pointing to the fact that he's abusing the report system.
Also, the ban I put forth that day was done after the fact that I asked you guys to stop. And yes, that's the rule I used as a reason for it.

alright, I probably should learn my mistake & keep my shitty attitude out of away. my fault

 

[Percilius]

That can be understandable, but there is no standard for recognizing report abuse from the user's standpoint until it happens.
Nothing to refer to thread-wise, as far as I know. This is all there is.





Generating a fraudulent report?

• Spamming. Examples:
  • Advertising other TF2 servers or Skial competitors.
  • Telling people to boycott Skial.
  • Reporting people that aren't breaking the rules.
  • Calling random votes, even on yourself.
  • Music is not allowed on voice chat.

That was done, but griefing does not list using pans as a violation.

• Griefing Examples:
  • Blocking sniper views
  • Teleporter traps
  • Dying on purpose in Zombie Escape after autoinfection ends.

I'm not making an exception because I am aware how pans can be quite annoying.
But for those reading from the outside, they won't know. It needs to be updated to list under griefing.

Again, where is the evidence of him abusing it, all you posted was a video of the vote being made on him.
Also, read the first few lines of the rules page:
"Examples are listed. But just because you don't see something here does not mean it is not included. Every single thing is not listed because the rules are so long that most people don't read it all and we cannot think of every possible problem."
You're free to make a suggestion to add that as an example of griefing in the rules.

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

@Percilius we should end this argument

 

[Winnie]

Again, where is the evidence of him abusing it, all you posted was a video of the vote being made on him.

The report is here, as shown in the initial post.
I included it with the video. Again, there is no clear explanation for the user on how to detect abuse until it has occurred.

Also, read the first few lines of the rules page:
"Examples are listed. But just because you don't see something here does not mean it is not included. Every single thing is not listed because the rules are so long that most people don't read it all and we cannot think of every possible problem."
You're free to make a suggestion to add that as an example of griefing in the rules.

That is my fault for not reading that.
I’ll keep it in mind and may suggest it in the future—perhaps as a formal approach to help Leadership maintain transparency with the community.

 

[Percilius]

The report is here, as shown in the initial post.
I included it with the video. Again, there is no clear explanation for the user on how to detect abuse until it has occurred.

An invalid report doesn't immediately equate to an abuse of the report system.