Resolved darklythinking - Abusing of votemenu - again

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iamgoatman said:
Even though there are no rules against using the Gunslinger on any map, surely repeatedly going into a server (eu sd_doomsday) to deliberately play in a certain manner that they know annoys everyone, in order to bait users into using the votemenu whilst recording the whole thing just to post here and have them banned/muted, to then laud it over them in the chat IS considered griefing. I think it's pretty obvious by now what Misaka Mikoto/Railgun/Annie intentions are, judging by the sheer number of reports from just 1 server, and it's to get as many people (most of them regulars there, I know, I am one) banned or muted. It's trolling, plain and simple, and if thats not against any rules but being "friendly" is, then that's just stupid.
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I am informing you of the server rules. You can rate it dumb, but I was just stating the facts for you. :-)

Caesar said:
Bigshula and Grima, have you guys tried playing on doomsday with the minisentry, we invite you to give it a shot, for hours, for days, doomsday isn't your regular map, that is the reason we love it.

Trolling isn't against the rules? This may sound rude, but are you guys like supporting trolling? Why not create a rule that prevents trolling, to quote goatman
"surely repeatedly going into a server (eu sd_doomsday) to deliberately play in a certain manner that they know annoys everyone, in order to bait users into using the votemenu whilst recording the whole thing just to post here and have them banned/muted, to then laud it over them in the chat IS considered griefing. "

Shouldn't the people who play the server create it's rules? Under the supervision of skial of course, but being 90% of the players must give us some kind of impact on it's gameplay.
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I played Doomsday quite a bit for a while, and a decent Soldier, Demo or sniper can ruin a mini's engie's day(personal opinion). It's not that trolling is supported or encouraged, it just happens to be a part of online gaming. If Skial starts banning people for trolling or insulting then half the people that play would be banned. And where would you draw the line with it? Griefing is considered hindering your own team. Ie: A tele trap, friendly party....

An admin will have the final say on this, but I am just giving you some information.
 
Ceasar... so... Steam wont allow having the same game opened twice... and if I¨m railgun, then how did I record that game from a different IP and acc?
 
These days people have more than one computer at home/real life friends/family.

The fact that every time you report there seems to be a a totally different person being online/recording AND railgun insulting me when he isn't even present in the report really gives it.
Regardless, this isn't the discussion, it's about one person ruining 12 people that I know about (and probably many more new players who are too lazy/ I don't talk to them) gameplay.
 
Are you stupid? you can't have 2 different IP's at home unless you are paying 2 different internet operator... god...
 
More insults? I thought you just pointed out how much you're against them. Please stop digressing, and return to the main point, thanks.
 
Caesar... I don't have enough strenght to argue with you... think what you want to think... but let me tell you, that you think wrong. I never said, that I¨m againt insults, I just said, that I'm against insults for no reason. Also... word "stupid" is not insult... just a medical term. (or mental...)
 
Caesar, Ayakashi is not me. I couldn't play two classes at the same time, if you already noticed that player Railgun and Ayakashi PLAY sometimes at the same time on one server. Moreover Bigshula and Grima are right. I didn't break any rule. You, others, did. Voting is for serious reason like hacking and REAL griefing, not crying because of kills by mini sentry. I think we should wait for admin and stop arguing.
 
http://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:23608673&Submit

Anyone that breaks an actual rule and is reported with evidence will be banned or silenced appropriately. The owner of Skial made the rules of how he wanted his servers run. You do not get to decide which weapons are allowed to be used or not.

I would suggest that the "most talented, the most active, the most funny, the most interactive players of this server" learns how to deal with mini sentries and not try to ban, or encourage others to try to ban those that use them.
 
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Nitrouspiggy said:
Annie/Misaka/Railgun, all you do on doomsday is place minisentries, ruin peoples' fun, then report them when they try to do something about it. It's the equivalent of running crying to mummy because someone poked you. When you do play other classes, you're actually ok, yet within 20 minutes you're always back with the gunslinger. People come on the server to have fun, and minisentries ruin this fun and turn the game into a bore of having to destroy sentries 5 times a minute.
Building on Caesar's idea, what if there was a separate server for no minis/no engies? That way misaka gets her fun without ruining other peoples' and making people leave.

oh, and darklythinking is the most pro player I have ever seen on the server and reporting him is basically treason.
Goodnight.
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Please read the server rules. Using Mini-Sentries is not against the rules. If you're so "pro" as you say you are, Mini-Sentries should not be a problem. I personally believe that the person (or persons) who keeps vote abusing against Misaka should be mute/gagged or banned for a certain amount of time because this is the fourth time that I have seen a report about this incident. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.
 
Really misaka, when you place minis it may be fun for you to see your points go up, but it spoils the game for the rest of us. Yes people insult you in their anger, and yes, whoever told you to drink bleach went too far. But do you not see how it can turn a fun session of doomsday into a nightmare of destroying a minisentry every 10 seconds? And really, from your persistence I'm sure you can fight your own battles, without your brother/boyfriend/both backing you up.

Oh and I said darkly was pro, not me.
 
Then try to do something like "Team work" and one goes after the engi while another destroys the sentry?
Also, complaining about the reports she makes? Maybe if you stop abusing the votemenu, she will stop making reports since there wont be a reason to.

She does the right thing. She isn't rulebreaking. End of story. Stop voting her to be banned since "using mini-sentries" isn't against the rules.
 
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Misaka is indeed not rulebreaking, there is no doubt about it. It is even weird that she gets so much attention for it, even when she certainly isn't the only one doing this.
Although that may have something to do with the fact that she is a regular, instead of one random guy you never see again.

Anyway, the problem here is that rules alone won't solve this dispute. This is a matter of differing opinions, and rules can not really fix that.
On one side, you have a group of people that are annoyed by the use of the mini-sentry, and on the other side, you have someone who enjoys using it. Even though there are ways to deal with the mini-sentries, they have the right to have their opinion, just like Misaka has the right to like using mini-sentries. I do agree that the insults that sometimes come with the former opinion are over the top and uncalled for, though.

This server is quite a nice one, with nice and skilled regulars. If we want to keep it that way, we should try to solve this in a civil way, with talking, instead of voting and reporting, because this is not helping at all.
Both sides should be prepared to make sacrifices to make sure everyone plays together nicely.
 
Even though they have the right to their own opinion, does it give them the right to constantly break rules? It's obviously not going to be settled in a civil way because for some reason, this guy doesn't understand that using Mini-Sentries are fine. Plus on top of that, he got his friends to come here and say that he is "pro" and all this other stuff. If a player wants to use a certain weapon, let them use that weapon. If these regulars are "skilled", then find a way to deal with it. Complaining about one weapon is hardly something that a "skilled" player would do.
 
a guy with a shitty ping said:
I understand that minis are part of the game and all but may I ask what is the definition of REAL griefing?
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Intentionally harming your team for an extending period of time.

This is a report thread, not a discussion thread. If you want to continue this discussion, please make a thread in an appropriate category.
 
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