Brexit vote wins.

[Pengy]

I just watched a French news report saying British people in France are pissed as fuck, their pension paid in Pounds is over 8% lower now and it's just going to fuck shit up for everyone
The majority of the people who voted for Brexit were old people who are going to die soon anyways and wanted to see the U.K go back to its original "glory" but don't give a shit about the future, so I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it
Also, a huge majority of the expats are considering renouncing their British citizenship and acquiring French, Spanish and other European nationalities, saying they'd rather stay where they are than be forced to go back to the U.K.

Ouch, just looked it up. 1.3 million expats living in the EU that are now gonna either be deported back to the UK or have to go through the much more difficult process of getting/maintaining dual citizenship. I can see why they're pissed as fuck.

My take is that you want us to interpret bad data, from a poll of merely 1600 people out of over 40 million, that was done several days before Brexit (when all the polls agreed Brexit would lose and look what happened). It's not good data if the sample size is that small; you would be making really, really stupid assumptions and embarrassing yourself.

Except for the fact that every single poll or infograph that's broken down the vote has had very similar numbers/percentages to that. Some before the vote, some after.

 

[Uncle F3AR]

The UK left at the right time, just before the EU gave membership to Turkey (which is not european). What a nightmare that would've been if they stayed.

 

[LiterallyCody]

The UK left at the right time, just before the EU gave membership to Turkey (which is not european). What a nightmare that would've been if they stayed.

What was the number? 12 million Turkish people moving to EU + Pope Francis went to Armenia to recognize the Armenian Genocide and piss off Turks even more from joining the EU

 

[Toxik]

My take is that you want us to interpret bad data, from a poll of merely 1600 people out of over 40 million, that was done several days before Brexit (when all the polls agreed Brexit would lose and look what happened). It's not good data if the sample size is that small; you would be making really, really stupid assumptions and embarrassing yourself.

I'll agree that the graph itself isn't the best, but it doesn't change that Brexit was successful because of older generations while younger generations almost entirely voted to stay, though
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...and_young_have_different_attitudes_about.html
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/24/12025954/brexit-young-voters-remain

This one also has the graph, but other updates ones: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ts-age-data-young_uk_576cd7d6e4b0232d331dac8f

While this particular graph was done early, I think it actually interprets the overall data pretty well

 

[Luke]

Except for the fact that every single poll or infograph that's broken down the vote has had very similar numbers/percentages to that. Some before the vote, some after.

While this particular graph was done early, I think it actually interprets the overall data pretty well

The problem is that there are all sorts of problems when it comes to these kinds of statistics, firstly because it's a sample of the larger picture- so depending on the sample size it may be less accurate, then we have to take into account where they live (if you take the poll in Scotland or London for instance, then we're staying whereas if you look somewhere else, you might get massively different results), then the fact is many people changed their minds several times in the weeks leading up to the vote (personally my opinion changed three times, from leave to remain to leave again, friends all did similar things too).

It is impossible to know what people actually voted for and who the people are that voted out and who voted in... you would either need direct data from after someone voted (which would be sketchy and not everyone would be honest, or even talk about their vote) or you would need cameras/some form of tracking for each vote given (which would be highly illegal and also doesn't take into account proxy voting/postal voting etc).

Just from my "sample" of friends and family, I can say that all of my younger friends have voted to leave whereas the older people that I know are roughly split, a funny example being my grandparents who voted and effectively cancelled each other out... but counted towards the turnout figures, which actually made me interested in how much higher the turnout would've been if the couples that cancelled each other out still went and voted (as I've heard of more situations in which people just didn't go and vote because they were cancelling each other out).

 

[LiterallyCody]

I heard a lot of the young people didn't even vote. So why are they complaining? It's the same thing that happened here in US when it came to voting Bernie Sanders, but really. We all knew he was going to lose.

 

[Luke]

I heard a lot of the young people didn't even vote. So why are they complaining? It's the same thing that happened here in US when it came to voting Bernie Sanders, but really. We all knew he was going to lose.

Again, you can't really break turnout down into who specifically voted - so it's hard to know whether or not young people voted, from what I've seen many young people were actually very eager to vote because they knew that this would be a once in a lifetime thing, unless we get a second referendum in which case I expect the turnout to drop massively.

 

[Blade D_Hero]

I'll agree that the graph itself isn't the best, but it doesn't change that Brexit was successful because of older generations while younger generations almost entirely voted to stay, though
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...and_young_have_different_attitudes_about.html
http://www.vox.com/2016/6/24/12025954/brexit-young-voters-remain

This one also has the graph, but other updates ones: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ts-age-data-young_uk_576cd7d6e4b0232d331dac8f

While this particular graph was done early, I think it actually interprets the overall data pretty well

The vote turnout for age 18-24 voters was at like
34%? If I recall correctly

They bitch about the results but they could have easily turned the tide of the vote in their favor if they weren't so lazy.

 

[Cream Tea]

The vote turnout for age 18-24 voters was at like
34%? If I recall correctly

They bitch about the results but they could have easily turned the tide of the vote in their favor if they weren't so lazy.

Glad they didn't vote though, could have actually turned the tide completely.

 

[T-Wayne]

Cream Tea what good do you think you achieved with this? I am curious to know your motive as to why you think this was the right decision. If you want to share of course.
Asking because I can not see any logical reason beside intentions in the far right Wing of keeping people out of your country. But maybe an Insider can share me the reason as to why leaving was a glorious decision?

 

[JayDee]

to keep them goshdurn dirty foreigners off of british soil
rule britannia

 

[Cream Tea]

Cream Tea what good do you think you achieved with this? I am curious to know your motive as to why you think this was the right decision. If you want to share of course.
Asking because I can not see any logical reason beside intentions in the far right Wing of keeping people out of your country. But maybe an Insider can share me the reason as to why leaving was a glorious decision?

Because Turkey is going to be joining the EU and I think we know where their next stop will be once they're in Europe...

I don't really want to go into more detail, but I'll simply put there are also a 'certain kind' who also don't like mingling over here....
And no it's not the Indians nor the Chinese. They've mingled pretty well.

 

[JayDee]

turkeys going to join the eu?
since when?

 

[LiterallyCody]

turkeys going to join the eu?
since when?

https://www.rt.com/news/347953-erdogan-eu-turkey-muslim/

http://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-...cession-negotiations-should-now-be-suspended/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...mbrace-of-Turkey-could-drive-Britain-out.html

12 million Turks were going to move to Europe and that would be the end of Europe. They're already being pressured to keep these Syrians, which most of them are battle harden men and young boys, there's very little women who I saw. These goddamn Syrian Refugees are cowards that left their wives in that hell-hole of a country.

 

[JayDee]

"Talks on possible EU membership for Turkey have been taking place since 1963, when Ankara and Brussels drafted an association agreement stating the country would aim to be a member of the bloc. After formally applying in 1987, Turkey began accession talks in 2005. However, Turkey has since made little progress to meet the necessary criteria, despite a flurry of early reforms."
cool

 

[DaivdBaekr]

intentions in the far right Wing of keeping people out of your country.

Limiting immigration in a country where native Britons are minorities in their own capital is considered far-right now?

I was under the impression that EU didn't meddle with member states' immigration policies.

 

[Toxik]

Paris has become overrun by immigrants for a few years now, and since the problems have just been piling up, especially violence on the streets and people getting mad that the immigrants have no interest at all in integrating into French culture, they are pretty much colonizing neighborhoods, scaring locals away and imposing their own beliefs and way of life.
Honestly, I can see why the U.K. would be worried about something similar happening, look at the shit that happened in Germany after they allowed ridiculous numbers of immigrants to come in. Out of control immigrant camps, women getting raped, people either killing each other over supplies or attacking the people giving them the supplies, fuck that shit

 

[LiterallyCody]

Here's a video for all of you.

 

[JayDee]

i mean i agree with it but why does he have to make it sound so edgy

 

[DaivdBaekr]

Honestly, I can see why the U.K. would be worried about something similar happening, look at the shit that happened in Germany after they allowed ridiculous numbers of immigrants to come in. Out of control immigrant camps, women getting raped, people either killing each other over supplies or attacking the people giving them the supplies, fuck that shit

They already one-upped Germany on that one, fam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Lorry drivers experience a lot of those other things. Some fed up enough to quit the job. There was a story not too long ago of a guy driving back from Calais who got some sort of spear or pole thrown through his windshield by a pack of migrants trying to hijack the lorry. Dunno if he quit after that or not.
edit: yep he quit