Invalid Appeal: Gourmet Cake

[Gourmet Cake]

Link to your ban or your com block:

https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=e,30&advType=length​

Why should you be unbanned or unblocked?:

I've had it with your shit skial. I've been harassed almost every time i go to your 2fort servers by some shit talking asshole and I'M the one who ends up getting muted or gagged because i talk back to them to defend myself. I ran into this guy named koop and every single time he'd kill me or my teammates he would just make fun of us by saying how bad we are and just personal insults yet you do nothing. This has happened multiple times yet it's the victim who always gets gagged, banned, muted, etc. I'm fucking sick of it. This is the only server i go to where NOTHING is done to bullies and the victims get muted. The way you handle situations is fucking abysmal. I'm not asking you to ungag me because believe i dont intend on coming back to your shitty servers.​

 

[Fenix]

Well first of all, I don't know what you were trying with that sourceban search, but that was horribly wrong. You searched the ban list, you were comm blocked. The correct link is here: https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&searchText=[U:1:106755864]&Submit
Protip: search your name or Steam ID.

Second, this was the first offense for you, and you only had 3 other mutes all of which were vote mutes, admins had nothing to do with them.

Third, client mute is there for a reason. Shit talking isn't against the rules, however we make it very clear you can not use the N word or any variant. Messages pop up all the time in the server telling you how to check the rules, just type "/rules" in chat and it'll take you straight to https://www.skial.com/threads/server-rules.136/ where you'll find the following under things that are prohibited:

• Any form of the word nigger (nigga, nigg etc.) is not allowed even if you are just quoting a rap song or you are black, to prevent racists and kids using the same excuse.

so things like
2FORT | NY | Fast 05/01/2016 - 04:03:01 PM Gourmet Cake AFK nigger
are clearly not allowed.

If there is rule breaking going on beyond shit talking feel free to add any of us admins on Steam and send a message, report using the in-game commands, or come here to the forums (more specifically https://www.skial.com/forms/report-player.2/respond) and report a player there.

Client mute is a wonderful thing for ignoring the trolls. Fish Kill even advised you to just ignore koop, and if you had client muted him you would never see his chat or hear him on mic again. Just hit ESC, click the ear icon, find him in the list and click the mute button. Trust me, it will make your gaming sessions more fun and a lot less stressful. If you don't feed the trolls they lose their power.

It's just a day silence, you can still play. Take a break, take a breath, and just know you're still welcome in our servers. Don't let the trolls get to you, you're better than them.

 

[Cream Tea]

I agreed with you up until this point:

i talk back to them to defend myself.

You see they are not doing anything wrong as such, there is a mute button for a reason.

If I may say this should be a lesson for life, you will get people who piss you off in life, what are you going to do? Stick duct tape around their mouths? No. You just have to ignore them.

Sorry to sound harsh, but that's how life is in general, and the solution is really simple, ignore them.

 

[Gourmet Cake]

Well first of all, I don't know what you were trying with that sourceban search, but that was horribly wrong. You searched the ban list, you were comm blocked. The correct link is here: https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&searchText=[U:1:106755864]&Submit
Protip: search your name or Steam ID.

Second, this was the first offense for you, and you only had 3 other mutes all of which were vote mutes, admins had nothing to do with them.

Third, client mute is there for a reason. Shit talking isn't against the rules, however we make it very clear you can not use the N word or any variant. Messages pop up all the time in the server telling you how to check the rules, just type "/rules" in chat and it'll take you straight to https://www.skial.com/threads/server-rules.136/ where you'll find the following under things that are prohibited:

• 
  Any form of the word nigger (nigga, nigg etc.) is not allowed even if you are just quoting a rap song or you are black, to prevent racists and kids using the same excuse.

so things like
2FORT | NY | Fast 05/01/2016 - 04:03:01 PM Gourmet Cake AFK nigger
are clearly not allowed.

If there is rule breaking going on beyond shit talking feel free to add any of us admins on Steam and send a message, report using the in-game commands, or come here to the forums (more specifically https://www.skial.com/forms/report-player.2/respond) and report a player there.

Client mute is a wonderful thing for ignoring the trolls. Fish Kill even advised you to just ignore koop, and if you had client muted him you would never see his chat or hear him on mic again. Just hit ESC, click the ear icon, find him in the list and click the mute button. Trust me, it will make your gaming sessions more fun and a lot less stressful. If you don't feed the trolls they lose their power.

It's just a day silence, you can still play. Take a break, take a breath, and just know you're still welcome in our servers. Don't let the trolls get to you, you're better than them.

What am i supposed to do? Take it like a bitch as he harasses us more? This guy literally has been harassing me and the whole team for 30 straight minutes and then i finally get tired of it and call him the N word out of anger, now suddenly with that ONE word i'm the bad guy. You people are full of shit. And i'm aware thats not the right link i put for my appeal. I used that link because it required me to put something in there and also i dont want you to unmute me. Permaban me i dont give a shit. I'm not even going to bother to report the numerous jackasses in your servers because of the hell you'll put me through just to get proof.

 

[Fenix]

What am i supposed to do? Take it like a bitch as he harasses us more?

No, you client mute him and move on. If you don't hear him he can't piss you off, you take away his power. You aren't taking anything and you aren't a bitch just because some random person on the internet says so.

I'm not even going to bother to report the numerous jackasses in your servers because of the hell you'll put me through just to get proof.

I'm not sure how to make it any easier, we have the in-game report function and if it's chat-based we can look it up, you just have to tell us who it is. As for things that are on the microphone or infractions that occur over time like griefing or friendlying, we need a demo or video to we can see it happen and get context. You have to be our eyes and ears, we can't be everywhere all the time. All the TF2 communities have it just as bad, we're all doing our best but if you don't tell us what is going on we can't help you.

If you were constantly harassed in real life would you not bother with a police report because of the hell they'd put you through to fill out a report? At least here you have a unique identifier you can give us, with a cop you'd have much more vague information unless you managed to get a driver's license or other form of identification.

What specific harassment has been going on to you? If any of it is against the rules we can help, you just have to let us know what is happening. Unfortunately trash talking and shit talking isn't against the rules. By losing your temper like you're doing though you let the trolls win, this is exactly what they want, to get in your head, piss you off, make you play bad, and in extreme cases chase you out of the server.

If you decide to come back to our servers then great, we'd love to have you. If not, good luck on whatever server or community you land in.

 

[Gourmet Cake]

Sorry i'm having trouble typing im not spamming you or anything. Anyways all i know is this kid's name is "koop" and hes been gagged for racism and harrassment multiple time according to other server guys. If it helps

 

[Fenix]

No worries, I will check up on him now.

EDIT: Unfortunately I don't see much in his chat log, he must be one that favors the microphone. We'll need a demo or video to determine if he's spamming or any other rules are being broken. Information on recording a demo can be found here: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Help:Recording_demos and here: https://www.skial.com/threads/collecting-evidence-in-tf2.47782/

I do apologize for the harassment you've suffered on our servers, but that is the nature of the internet; people become total assholes when they can hide behind a monitor. Please report anything you think is breaking a rule via the in-game commands or by going to https://www.skial.com/forms/report-player.2/respond

Don't worry if you're not sure, we'd rather look into something that isn't breaking a rule than miss something that is because you're uncertain. As admins we know what we got ourselves into when we signed up for the job :smiley:

I'm glad you seem to have regained your composure, I hope you return to our servers soon.

 

[Gourmet Cake]

Yeah i apologize for losing my tempure yesterday. But is this demo for app servers or just skiap servers? Thanks in advance

 

[Gourmet Cake]

I meant to say "all" instead of "app"

 

[T-Wayne]

What am i supposed to do?

Add me on Steam and I will visit this special friend of yours whenever he bothers you (if I am available).

 

[Fenix]

The demo file is playable by anyone who has tf2 installed. When you record it, it goes into your tf2 directory, and can be played from the console by typing "playdemo demoname"
If you upload it somewhere we can download it, we'll be able to see exactly what you record. We've caught many people this way, thanks to our awesome community.

I have the following in my steam profile to try to help others, it seems relevant here:

If someone is breaking a rule in the server and it is something that occurs over a period of time (mic spam, griefing, friendlying, etc.) it is a good habit to record a demo FIRST before making a report or using the in-game /report command. Information on recording a demo can be found here:http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Help:Recording_demos and here:https://www.skial.com/threads/collecting-evidence-in-tf2.47782/
Once you have a demo, upload it somewhere an admin can easily download it; there are plenty of file sharing sites around. Just make sure you don't need an account to download, we aren't going to make a million accounts for all the file sharing sites people might decide to use. Now you have evidence to put in the report thread! If you made an in-game report, you'll have to come to the forums and comment on the thread started by our reporter bot.

If someone is breaking a rule and it's something that is immediate and does not require a demo (illegal spray, racism in text chat, spamming, etc.) a screenshot will suffice. Upload it somewhere we can easily see it, again there are a million photo sharing sites out there, and same as with the demo make sure we don't need an account to see the picture. Same as above, come to the forums and put it in the report thread (preferably inline).

The upload of choice for demos seems to be mega.nz or dropbox.

I hope we can help you in the future and hope to see you in a server soon!

 

[Gourmet Cake]

Add me on Steam and I will visit this special friend of yours whenever he bothers you (if I am available).

Thats nice of you but i dont have him on steam and theres like a million people with his name.

 

[Gourmet Cake]

The demo file is playable by anyone who has tf2 installed. When you record it, it goes into your tf2 directory, and can be played from the console by typing "playdemo demoname"
If you upload it somewhere we can download it, we'll be able to see exactly what you record. We've caught many people this way, thanks to our awesome community.

I have the following in my steam profile to try to help others, it seems relevant here:

If someone is breaking a rule in the server and it is something that occurs over a period of time (mic spam, griefing, friendlying, etc.) it is a good habit to record a demo FIRST before making a report or using the in-game /report command. Information on recording a demo can be found here:http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Help:Recording_demos and here:https://www.skial.com/threads/collecting-evidence-in-tf2.47782/
Once you have a demo, upload it somewhere an admin can easily download it; there are plenty of file sharing sites around. Just make sure you don't need an account to download, we aren't going to make a million accounts for all the file sharing sites people might decide to use. Now you have evidence to put in the report thread! If you made an in-game report, you'll have to come to the forums and comment on the thread started by our reporter bot.

If someone is breaking a rule and it's something that is immediate and does not require a demo (illegal spray, racism in text chat, spamming, etc.) a screenshot will suffice. Upload it somewhere we can easily see it, again there are a million photo sharing sites out there, and same as with the demo make sure we don't need an account to see the picture. Same as above, come to the forums and put it in the report thread (preferably inline).

The upload of choice for demos seems to be mega.nz or dropbox.

I hope we can help you in the future and hope to see you in a server soon!

Thanks again sorry i lost my temper

 

[Fenix]

Thanks again sorry i lost my temper

It happens, I understand. You just can't let the trolls get to you, all it does is make them happy and you miserable. If you are able to ignore and mute them, you'll be that much happier and they'll be that much more miserable.

Good luck, have fun, see you in a server soon hopefully!

EDIT: Oh and what T-Wayne said about adding him in case koop bugged you again, you don't need to have koop on your friend list, just a few of us admins so we can be reached at a moment's notice while something is occurring in a server. We all have our steam profiles linked to our forum accounts so you can just look at the information tab of our forum profiles to find a direct link to our steam profile pages. You can friend us from there, and then next time koop is causing trouble just get a hold of us on steam chat and we can pop into the server.