Ishu Obi

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I was just on Deathrun today when a group of flyengis were spamming the "Wew" voiceline from the Kazotsky Kick taunt.

Proof:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/t3icp0hvr4yepht/Team+Fortress+2+2026.02.21+-+17.42.58.02.mp4/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ih8c4s8zcot9qfl/Team+Fortress+2+2026.02.21+-+17.38.41.01.mp4/file

I shouldn't have to mute my whole game just so some trolls can spam a highpitched voiceline for as long as they decide to.

If people can be muted or banned for spamming in voice chat, this should also include voiceline spam. I can mute someone spamming in voice chat, I can't mute character voicelines without muting my whole game or editing files which should not be needed to stop spammers.
 
I've already died multiple times to traps that disappear when other players step on them because I had !hide on to "mute" the spammers. If I can't see players, I can't time the trap correctly and I die.
Sounds like a skill issue.
 
You can download what arctic said in here if you dont like the sound, idk why you want to argue over a voiceline you dont like

https://gamebanana.com/mods/429796
Because I'm not talking about that voiceline specifically. I'm talking about voiceline spam in general. If I download a mod to fix one issue, trolls will swap to some other method to annoy people. It becomes a game of whack-a-mole instead of fixing the general problem outright.

Players shouldn't have to install mod after mod just so spammers can spam. That's unrealistic. You know what is realistic? Including voiceline spam in the general spam rule to discourage bad behavior. If everyone on the server or an admin is ok with it then nothing happens. If the server or an admin doesn't like it then they can be punished. It's not that complicated. If this works perfectly fine with voicechat spam there should be no issue with it working on voicelines too.
 
On the topic of Fly engi:

Does it affect gameplay? : no

Does it hinder your ability to play the game effectively?: not really, maybe a small number of scenarios related to audio cues if there are many people doing it. Still not common.

Is it fun for other people, a feature of a cosmetic, and core to TF2 as a game?: yes

Can you fix it yourself easily using a mod?: yes

What is yall's deal. The fly engi is from 2011, and the kazotzky kick is from 2015. People made solutions for this, its called MODS. They are easy and safe to install in like 5 minutes. You making this other peoples problem is ludicrous. I hope no admin looks upon this suggestion favorably.

Now this might sound hypocritical given my stance on mic spam enforcement, as a major argument for loosening it was that you can mute people yourself. However my opinion on that (that the rules should remain as is) originates from the same argument as this one. Fix the thing that is a problem for the most people (mic spam can be far worse than anything engi's spam, and cannot be addressed in a one and done task by simple mods). Punishing voiceline spam, which is practically staple in TF2, is absurd. Being retarded on mic is not, unless its actually funny ig.
 
On the topic of Fly engi:

Does it affect gameplay? : no

Does it hinder your ability to play the game effectively?: not really, maybe a small number of scenarios related to audio cues if there are many people doing it. Still not common.

Is it fun for other people, a feature of a cosmetic, and core to TF2 as a game?: yes

Can you fix it yourself easily using a mod?: yes

What is yall's deal. The fly engi is from 2011, and the kazotzky kick is from 2015. People made solutions for this, its called MODS. They are easy and safe to install in like 5 minutes. You making this other peoples problem is ludicrous. I hope no admin looks upon this suggestion favorably.

Now this might sound hypocritical given my stance on mic spam enforcement, as a major argument for loosening it was that you can mute people yourself. However my opinion on that (that the rules should remain as is) originates from the same argument as this one. Fix the thing that is a problem for the most people (mic spam can be far worse than anything engi's spam, and cannot be addressed in a one and done task by simple mods). Punishing voiceline spam, which is practically staple in TF2, is absurd. Being retarded on mic is not, unless its actually funny ig.
Does it affect gameplay: Yes. Being able to hear the game sounds is important to playing the game. Sound cues are a thing for a reason and having 1+ people spamming high pitched ear bleeding noise nonstop can and does cause issues for people.

Does it hinder your ability to play the game effectively: Having to either suffer by default, hide every single player, or mute your entire games sound hinders my ability to play the game in either circumstance.

Can you fix it by yourself with a mod: Mods. Are not. The solution. So because one person decides to be an asshole, all 31 other players need to stop what their doing and download a mod? Everyone needs to go out of their way to let an asshole be an asshole? Why is reporting not the solution here? Why is it the end of the world that assholes need to be accountable for their shitty actions?

I'm not asking for voice lines to be disabled. I'm not asking for flyengi to be disabled.

I'm asking for basic accountability. If someone decides to piss off the whole server with voiceline spam, they should have the ability to report the problem and have an admin determine if its a problem or not, just like mic spam. Why is this so controversial?
 
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All 30 players don't fucking care. Its core to the game and its identity, if it bothers you so much stop playing. It is definitely a minority of people that are that bothered by it and it does not happen THAT often. A mod exists to fix the issue for that minority, the rest of us are gonna play the game. Personally I have never been unable to hear anything else going on because of engi's spamming taunts (and I have spammed the taunts myself). Like, the fact you call them assholes already tells me that something must be up with you. If your hearing is that sensitive to it, install the mod. I don't think rules should be changed just because some people are having fun being a lil goofy and annoying with taunts.
 
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If this vote passes we’d end up on the front page of Reddit for all the wrong reasons. For simply that fact alone.


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I saw a video of someone getting banned for medic taunting in the water and it was dumb and why should we ban someone for spamming voicelines it’s not even a rule but I get people don’t like it
 
The medic thing I kinda get because the sound is so loud it's global, like going on the idle server and firing the machina at the line of AFK's to spam the collateral sound effect. This is not that, these engineers cannot be heard from a map away, and it is easy to fix. Even then, its not that loud to begin with.
 
Mods. Are not. The solution. So because one person decides to be an asshole, all 31 other players need to stop what their doing and download a mod? Everyone needs to go out of their way to let an asshole be an asshole? Why is reporting not the solution here? Why is it the end of the world that assholes need to be accountable for their shitty actions?
All 31 players are busy playing the actual game and you're over here fussing about some real bullshit. I was in game with you and there were only like 3 to 4 people complaining about all the noise, of 31 people. And why are you acting like downloading a mod is such a pain in the ass? It takes like 5 minutes to add the files and restart your game. It's not hard. You're deliberately ignoring the best solution to your dilemma just because you're trying to make some grand point that doesn't even matter.

Mods actually are the solution because it literally removes the entire problem. That being, your complaining and the sounds you're complaining about. People aren't "assholes" because they're playing voice lines. An asshole would be spamming ear rape in voice chat trying to make people upset until they get muted, because that's something that's actually annoying to everyone. Playing voice lines to have fun or to be funny is not comparable to that.
 
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What a waste of a suggestion, it's so deadly it could kill. Fucking Chernobyl Elephant's Foot would be jealous.
 
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