I ultimately think the core motivations behind this thread stem from this suggestion or is least inspired by it.

With that said, let's put out a hypothetical that we lax our moderation on chat, why do you still want to say nigga @Cream Tea

It's not necessarily me who feels the need to say it as such but TF2 is an M-rated game and I'm tried of seeing players get muted for it when they're obviously not actual racists.

Like come on there is clearly a difference between going "sup niggas" and "hang all niggers"...
 
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It's not necessarily me who feels the need to say it as such but TF2 is an M-rated game and I'm tried of seeing players get muted for it when they're obviously not actual racists.

Like come on there is clearly a difference between going "sup niggas" and "hang all niggers"...
And why would it be necessary to say that? Why a "what's up guys"
 
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This has a two part problem:
First problem is: It's one of those words that some regard as "only some people can say", people will get upset if specific people say it. Having the word banned entirely avoids this problem.
Second problem is: Some people still regard it as a slur, even if it is the -a version, even if it is used in jest, etc.

I say fur*** as jest among my close friends, where I know it is ok because we know we are joking and are fine with that joke. I don't say it in public like in Skial because people still get offended by that word (due to the second part being used as a homophobic slur). Just because I find it sometimes funny to say in jest among my friends sometimes, doesn't mean it should be allowed in Skial.
Reading the room (I.E. being considerate of others) and not being a dick is a important thing.
 
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This has a two part problem:
First problem is: It's one of those words that some regard as "only some people can say", people will get upset if specific people say it. Having the word banned entirely avoids this problem.
Second problem is: Some people still regard it as a slur, even if it is the -a version, even if it is used in jest, etc.

I say fur*** as jest among my close friends, where I know it is ok because we know we are joking and are fine with that joke. I don't say it in public like in Skial because people still get offended by that word (due to the second part being used as a homophobic slur). Just because I find it sometimes funny to say in jest among my friends sometimes, doesn't mean it should be allowed in Skial.
Reading the room (I.E. being considerate of others) and not being a dick is a important thing.
There is a 3rd major problem with it too that seems to be tip-toed around by them.
You can never 100% fully gauge someone's intent over the internet with how they use words. Lest we forget the several page long discussion over the guy trying to go after a actual kid in one of the Idle servers this month?
 
It's not necessarily me who feels the need to say it as such but TF2 is an M-rated game and I'm tried of seeing players get muted for it when they're obviously not actual racists.

Like come on there is clearly a difference between going "sup niggas" and "hang all niggers"...

That's just how it's said. If you wish to say it CT, then that's your decision. I won't just because that's not who I am, but I am no longer slashing Skial's player count over that smaller degree of it, so players can be retained from petty reports.

The consensus here is proving that it's alright saying "nigga", as long as it is not with the 'er like that other guy was doing, which resulted in him being sent to the shadow realm lol. Or if it's stated poorly or of a similar nature. Good call to make the player count recover.
 
That's just how it's said. If you wish to say it CT, then that's your decision. I won't just because that's not who I am, but I am no longer slashing Skial's player count over that smaller degree of it, so players can be retained from petty reports.

The consensus here is proving that it's alright saying "nigga", as long as it is not with the 'er like that other guy was doing, which resulted in him being sent to the shadow realm lol. Or if it's stated poorly or of a similar nature. Good call to make the player count recover.
Do you two live in an alternate reality? It’s like a 3:1 ratio of against:for.
 
Do you two live in an alternate reality? It’s like a 3:1 ratio of against:for.

Actions speak louder than words. Y'all just silly and ban off the -er as understandably so, but the messages here are all over the place. Banning off would result in too high a deficit.

And hey, suggestions could agree or disagree and still not be in place. Y'all are letting the smaller variants pass the vibe checks in this thread lol. So it's nonverbally leaning in that direction. No loopholes attached.
Or did we successfully make an unmod thread?
 
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At this rate, its seeming like you 2 just want this place to degen into a overly toxic cesspit that veils it under levels of irony to the point its undetectable that it is actually hateful. "I'm calling you a soft slur instead of anything overtly neutral because I think the word is funny to me, but its okay because its just a bit."
 
At this rate, its seeming like you 2 just want this place to degen into a overly toxic cesspit that veils it under levels of irony to the point its undetectable that it is actually hateful. "I'm calling you a soft slur instead of anything overtly neutral because I think the word is funny to me, but its okay because its just a bit."

Yet you still don't report where it's stated in this thread. Hell nobody is. I'm just calling it out for what it is.
Generalizing to be "you 2" but the entirety of this thread isn't reflecting that. Here.
 
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At this rate, its seeming like you 2 just want this place to degen into a overly toxic cesspit that veils it under levels of irony to the point its undetectable that it is actually hateful. "I'm calling you a soft slur instead of anything overtly neutral because I think the word is funny to me, but its okay because its just a bit."

I think you just don't want to believe that actually there are many of us who hate this nanny-state non-sense.
 
I think you just don't want to believe that actually there are many of us who hate this nanny-state non-sense.

This is coming from the person who is the reason I require admins I back to have a job/kids/volunteer/school or something going on outside of the game. You lack any basis of perspective with this take that no honest person could take you seriously.

Do something with your life. Please I’m literally begging you. I can’t take you seriously like this. You are not him.
 
Actions speak louder than words. Y'all just silly and ban off the -er as understandably so, but the messages here are all over the place. Banning off would result in too high a deficit.

And hey, suggestions could agree or disagree and still not be in place. Y'all are letting the smaller variants pass the vibe checks in this thread lol. So it's nonverbally leaning in that direction. No loopholes attached.
Or did we successfully make an unmod thread?
We're not moderating it because it's the the direct topic of discussion in this suggestion. Do you want us to start moderating the usage of it here? A lot of posts here are about to get nuked.

Again refer to Blade's post here
Let’s do your favorite thing and call out when the last time someone played and whether their opinion is relevant. Here are the people who +1’d and the last time they played on Deathrun,

GBGamingPC: 2 years ago
BV9: 14 years ago
Scandiniv: Unclear (profile not linked)
Basenji : 1 day ago
Lord Zuko: 1 month ago
DrMcSomebody: 1 day ago
Kilometer: 4 months ago
INeedToBeBuffed: 4 days ago
Dravi: Today
Magilec: Unclear (profile not linked)
Yourself and Winnie: I assume recently

So six total players who played within the last 3 months. That screams vocal minority to me.
So either only certain people's opinions based on recent activity counts, or everyone's opinions counts. Cream needs to establish which one is it
 
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30134_-_SoyBooru.png>If you are not a wageslave then your opinion doesn't count!
 
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So either only certain people's opinions based on recent activity counts, or everyone's opinions counts. Cream needs to establish which one is it

I just don't think someone who is inactive and hates deathrun should be telling me, a contributor who actually knows the gamemode and is regularly active, what's really wrong with it.
 
We're not moderating it because it's the the direct topic of discussion in this suggestion. Do you want us to start moderating the usage of it here? A lot of posts here are about to get nuked.

That is fair if it is for the discussion. I would recommend keeping it so the conversations can flow on topic if read from the start.
But that is solely based on my discretion. I don't speak for y'all so I have no objections to a forum that y'all administer on.