New People Shouldn't Be Banned For Exploiting On The Newground Falling Blocks Minigame

[BryceM]

I don't think we should be banning people for this, because it's more a fault of the map itself. I think the map should be fixed up to no longer allow this exploit. It doesn't really hurt any other players, and it's not the easiest exploit to do, as it's very easy to fall off while doing. I do believe UFO may have been warned or even banned for this in the past, but I still don't think this is banworthy.

https://www.skial.com/threads/spooky-diosrep-hardcoreufo-rng-exploit.125145/

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

I don't think we should be banning people for this, because it's more a fault of the map itself. I think the map should be fixed up to no longer allow this exploit. It doesn't really hurt any other players, and it's not the easiest exploit to do, as it's very easy to fall off while doing. I do believe UFO may have been warned or even banned for this in the past, but I still don't think this is banworthy.

https://www.skial.com/threads/spooky-diosrep-hardcoreufo-rng-exploit.125145/

I would say add player clips around the ledges and corner

 

[DraviXi99]

Yes,easter eggs should not get you banned and maps design should get fixed totally before being able to play the map.

But it's not even that serious so it's okay to leave the exploits alone .

 

[BryceM]

I would say add player clips around the ledges and corner

I appreciate the response, ellis, but you're the one who keeps reporting people for doing this lol.

 

[BryceM]

Yes,easter eggs should not get you banned and maps design should get fixed totally before being able to play the map.

But it's not even that serious so it's okay to leave the exploits alone .

It's an exploit that doesn't hurt anyone. I'm not a mapper, but I can't imagine it takes very long to fix that up.

 

[TSP172]

People shouldn't be punished by shitty map design. and admins who think otherwise are retarded.

 

[Zerami]

En el supermercado puedes evitar parte del jefe parándote en una esquina, no noto la diferencia +1

 

[DraviXi99]

En el supermercado puedes evitar parte del jefe parándote en una esquina, no noto la diferencia +1

which minigame,boss ? tbf i think its part of the mini you don't need to dodge the lasers.

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

But its my fault for doing this report

 

[Feral Angel]

But its my fault for doing this report

so what if you did the report? it's an exploit that gives the players an advantage of winning a mini game that should be played fair. Don't fault yourself for something you did right man

 

[BryceM]

so what if you did the report? it's an exploit that gives the players an advantage of winning a mini game that should be played fair. Don't fault yourself for something you did right man

No one is being hurt by it.

 

[Metroidz]

But its my fault for doing this report

Keep reporting exploiters bud. You're doing a fantastic job of keeping Skial free of Cream Tea Jr's

 

[BryceM]

Keep reporting exploiters bud. You're doing a fantastic job of keeping Skial free of Cream Tea Jr's

False. We don't hate jews like CT does.

 

[Kjo]

map exploits = bad map maker? for example, cream tea?

 

[BryceM]

map exploits = bad map maker? for example, cream tea?

Not necessarily a bad map maker, just something that should be patched.

 

[Ellis From L4D2]

map exploits = bad map maker? for example, cream tea?

Dr newgrounds and Dr skibidi toilet is made by 1 or one

 

[ihop pancakes]

it's an exploit that gives the players an advantage of winning a mini game that should be played fair

Exploits happen when something isn't used the way it is meant to be. The argument presented is that not all exploits should be considered equal. They have to be measured and quantified in order to deliver an appropriate judgement.

In Newgrounds' case I think this is how we can break it down:

1. How advantageous is the exploit?
Very. Performing it guarantees a free win.

2. Does it prevent the game from proceeding?
Not at all. This isn't like the Luigi's Mansion exploit where the boss won't ever spawn and delay the round indefinitely.

3. Does it screw over other players?
Not at all. Other Red team members are not affected and can choose not to perform it themselves. You can make the case for the Activator, but then:

• You've allowed them the prerogative to pick a mini-game by not winning the Deathrun.
• The activator has no control over the mini-game itself. If it was a PvP mini-game, then I would agree with punishing the exploit.

4. Is the mapper’s design the primary cause?
Yes, it was very clearly an oversight.

The scale isn't nearly as large or potentially damaging as other exploits and hence should not be punished.

 

[lucas4647]

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Nice IRAC @ihop pancakes

 

[Kjo]

Exploits happen when something isn't used the way it is meant to be. The argument presented is that not all exploits should be considered equal. They have to be measured and quantified in order to deliver an appropriate judgement.

In Newgrounds' case I think this is how we can break it down:

1. How advantageous is the exploit?
Very. Performing it guarantees a free win.

2. Does it prevent the game from proceeding?
Not at all. This isn't like the Luigi's Mansion exploit where the boss won't ever spawn and delaying the round indefinitely.

3. Does it screw over other players?
Not at all. Other Red team members are not affected and can choose not to perform it themselves. You can make the case for the Activator, but then:

• You've allowed them the prerogative to pick a mini-game by not winning the Deathrun.
• The activator has no control over the mini-game itself. If it was a PvP mini-game, then I would agree with punishing the exploit.

4. Is the mapper’s design law the primary cause?
Yes, it was very clearly an oversight.

The scale isn't nearly as large or potentially damaging as other exploits and hence should not be punished.

Regardless of how little an exploit may be, for example, standing on a ledge, staying in a spot where a motivator is unable to kill you, an exploit is still an exploit, and thus should be punished.

 

[Enraged Blood]

Keep reporting exploiters bud. You're doing a fantastic job of keeping Skial free of Cream Tea Jr's

Honestly the difference is very simple

These people are doing a peaceful protest against some skial dr rules that could be considered bs

CT on the other hand, would basically be the edgy troll he is on Skial and known for doing the most fucked things and when a person who said a slur to target a minority group. Instead of calling that bad actors behavior out, he would be on their side and then Blame Kala or gala because the person who said fucked things got their muted extended to 1 month instead of 1 week because the bad actor was commenting on steam profiles going "PLSS PLSS PLS PLS READ MY APPEAL AND UNBAN MEEEEEEEE :("