New Remove dr_office from deathrun rotation...

[over there]

I know the map is a classic, but nowadays almost every single round is a bunch of people dropping down on the first trap and Hale letting them live so they're free to survive to the end and trigger traps themselves as they wish. It's completely idiotic, people didn't used to be like this back in the day so I don't know when this trend started but it just happens way too much now. I know removing the map sounds extreme but when you have a third of the server doing it trying to call a mod/admin to resolve the situation isn't going to end well for anyone especially when it happens this often.

 

[Water!]

+1

 

[Lord Zuko]

+1

 

[BadRats]

-1 we need to start adding maps and stop removing maps.

 

[rejectedwafflez]

-1

 

[over there]

-1 we need to start adding maps and stop removing maps.

We need to remove the maps where people do this the entire game like this one and ancient_memes (which is an even worse map with the most overpowered traps of any DR map). When those two maps are on you are not even playing DR, you are playing stall fiesta where Hale and whatever people he lets live are triggering traps and just messing with the rest of the players, making it impossible for them to win. Add more good maps, but as far as I can see the good maps get rejected often lol. If you have a counterargument then present it, but I suspect you know what I am saying is true.

If the maps aren't to be removed then they need to be edited to stop people from going to Hale side.

 

[「Coronarena」]

Stop voting for it.

 

[Enraged Blood]

+1

But sadly bottiger ain't going to remove it because he claims the map is popular.

 

[over there]

Stop voting for it.

Right, another problem though is that the regulars who love going onto Hale side to survive and trigger traps also often dominate the votes and try to coerce others into voting for these maps as well. As the server becomes more and more shitty, people looking for a real DR experience will go elsewhere and these people will remain to continue voting for dogshit maps. I think we need to start calling mods/admins every time people are doing this because I'm pretty sure Hale letting people live and them killing other survivors with traps breaks this rule:

"Friendlying is not allowed on custom game mode servers except for idle and trade."

Allowing these maps to remain is not very different from saying they don't actually care about people breaking this rule. They don't seem to patrol the servers very often looking for people doing this. Maybe add call admin command because making reports for all these people is not very feasible. In my opinion, admins cutting the bullshit a few times in front of all the regulars who love to friendly would help a good bit in curbing this behaviour.

 

[TheRealMr.Purple]

-1

 

[Pot Head Wabbit]

Right, another problem though is that the regulars who love going onto Hale side to survive and trigger traps also often dominate the votes and try to coerce others into voting for these maps as well. As the server becomes more and more shitty, people looking for a real DR experience will go elsewhere and these people will remain to continue voting for dogshit maps. I think we need to start calling mods/admins every time people are doing this because I'm pretty sure Hale letting people live and them killing other survivors with traps breaks this rule:

"Friendlying is not allowed on custom game mode servers except for idle and trade."

Allowing these maps to remain is not very different from saying they don't actually care about people breaking this rule. They don't seem to patrol the servers very often looking for people doing this. Maybe add call admin command because making reports for all these people is not very feasible. In my opinion, admins cutting the bullshit a few times in front of all the regulars who love to friendly would help a good bit in curbing this behaviour.

Maybe people just want to play dogshit maps? Have you ever considered the average skial player just genuinely likes maps such as among us, ancient, office, skibidi toilet etc. If people were really leaving in mass for other servers, it might be more of an issue but considering both EU and NA are full in the morning regardless of it being on a meme map or not and that makes the problem more than likely just for you.

 

[SIS]

Stop voting for it.

Or just leave the server once it's on, I know it might seem like an immense task for most Skial deathrun wafers but, it's pretty much all you can really do if you don't really like to play the map.

 

[over there]

Maybe people just want to play dogshit maps? Have you ever considered the average skial player just genuinely likes maps such as among us, ancient, office, skibidi toilet etc. If people were really leaving in mass for other servers, it might be more of an issue but considering both EU and NA are full in the morning regardless of it being on a meme map or not and that makes the problem more than likely just for you.

Unfortunately there just isn't many alternatives any more either. I did say they'll go elsewhere, but in truth there isn't much of anywhere else to go to, to begin with. These people will just stop playing DR entirely, leaving your "average" regular that isn't as much interested in DR itself as they are in breaking the rules by being friendly with Hale. If people want to clamor for shit maps, that is one thing. Another is within those shit maps enabling severe rule breaking nearly every round.

Office and ancient memes can remain just as shitty as they are in essence and players wanting to play them, I don't have as much of a problem with that even if I would prefer to play other maps. What I do have a problem with is the friendlying, so get rid of it. Why is it even allowed to be a thing, especially on ancient memes where Hale quite literally presses a "everyone come be friendly with me and screw over all the other survivors"? If not then I have no choice but to suggest the maps themselves be removed.

 

[Loaxy]

+1

But sadly bottiger ain't going to remove it because he claims the map is popular.

agreed :)

 

[Pot Head Wabbit]

Unfortunately there just isn't many alternatives any more either. I did say they'll go elsewhere, but in truth there isn't much of anywhere else to go to, to begin with. These people will just stop playing DR entirely, leaving your "average" regular that isn't as much interested in DR itself as they are in breaking the rules by being friendly with Hale. If people want to clamor for shit maps, that is one thing. Another is within those shit maps enabling severe rule breaking nearly every round.

Office and ancient memes can remain just as shitty as they are in essence and players wanting to play them, I don't have as much of a problem with that even if I would prefer to play other maps. What I do have a problem with is the friendlying, so get rid of it. Why is it even allowed to be a thing, especially on ancient memes where Hale quite literally presses a "everyone come be friendly with me and screw over all the other survivors"? If not then I have no choice but to suggest the maps themselves be removed.

because that rule was made for vsh where friendlying was a problem and shouldn't be retroactively enforced on dr when that's not what the players or the gamemode needs/wants.

 

[over there]

because that rule was made for vsh where friendlying was a problem and shouldn't be retroactively enforced on dr when that's not what the players or the gamemode needs/wants.

Really now? You are really trying to argue that friendlying in DR isn't a problem. Regardless of what you think the rule was "made for", the fact of the matter still is that it applies to all custom gamemodes. Besides, the friendlying in DR where your teammates go on Hale's area and help Hale kill other survivors goes beyond mere friendlying and into griefing your own team. You really are trying to tell me that the remaining players want this and that the gamemode needs or wants this?

 

[Pot Head Wabbit]

Really now? You are really trying to argue that friendlying in DR isn't a problem. Regardless of what you think the rule was "made for", the fact of the matter still is that it applies to all custom gamemodes. Besides, the friendlying in DR where your teammates go on Hale's area and help Hale kill other survivors goes beyond mere friendlying and into griefing your own team. You really are trying to tell me that the remaining players want this and that the gamemode needs or wants this?

Considering skial has already once tried to remove the pit and the tp to hales side and the change was reverted back for "popularity" I would say yes, it is what the server wants. Not that I necessarily agree but it's very true the vast majority of players do want this feature. Whether or not that is a good thing or not is semantics, but I would say overwhelmingly yes, the deathrun server and in turn the player base who plays dr wants it.

 

[TonyMontana]

just remove it and add department_beta in its place.