FF2 and VSH are very similar gamemodes, as such many things are the same such as how to play the classes.
My opinion is based on my experience within the servers, if there is a change within the servers my opinion is also likely to change. Once a person creates an opinion, it usually isn't set in stone. If you believe this is the case, the same can be applied to you.
500 is not low at all. 500 is a decent chunk of health to the hale for a multitude of reasons. With 15 people on the server, backstabs generally do around 750 damage (depending on the bosses health equation). With 10 and under it does do only 500, however, the hales health is already so low even only getting that 500 damage, a decent amount of health is removed.
2 crutches instead of 3 doesn't make it much better, but I'll ignore that for now. As for the soldier set you've mentioned, that is literally the strongest possible soldier set. Since the direct hit can only get crits, taunting to recieve minicrits actually gives full crits. Mantreads are very effective, I understand they were nerfed recently, however they are still VERY strong and are very easy to use to get a market garden (reason why they're called the crutchtreads).
What risk are you talking about? Is it simply because spy and trolldier need to get close to the hale? You have the dead ringer, which gives you a get out of jail free card, as well as the kunai, which on backstab lets you take a free hit. So the risk factor for playing this type of spy is LOW, if anything damage should be reduced for using the dead ringer, not increased. Market gardens do require you to get close to the hale, but a rocket jumping soldier is the MOST mobile class in the entire game. More than a scout, once you get beside the boss you can instantly jump to the other side of the map. Simply market when the hale is distracted, market, then jump away. Not hard to get multiple in a match, 500 damage is more than fine.
By that i meant throwing around insults, such as my ego is overwhelming my opinion, which you've now explained what you specifically meant.
Aight, I didn't wanted to continue this discussion but whatever, I can't sleep because of insomnia so here I am, and you're a clown but you're explanations aren't horrible so I will answer this one.
FF2 and VSH are similar but not as predictable, in VSH every hale does the same amount of damage and since there are less bosses, it's easier to know what are their strength/weakness and also their rage, in FF2 there are way more bosses with different rage and damage, which can be hard to learn, however the concept is the same, I do agree with that.
My opinion is also based on my experience, I used to play VSH really really often, in fact I was rank 1 in 2019, I should have mentioned it before but I just remembered it now, you can probably find proof of it yourself, because i honestly don't know where is the proof, maybe my previous chat ? Idk, anyway.
I'm strictly debating about the minimum damage a backstab can do, I should have mentioned it in the title but I genuinely forgot, anything from 600 to 1500 is balanced.
Why risking yourself trying to trickstab or just backstab hale when he can instantly kill you at that range when you can aim for 2 point blank headshots with the ambassador then pull out your invis watch and go flying off the map, this surely involves more skills that a trickstab (sarcasm).
About trolldier, if hes using the mantreads and sync a mg with a stomp he can do minimum 1524 damage, which is great but hale's melee hit extends to his head like the disciplinary action, which can lead to bad deaths and on servers with few people, hale won't be distracted unless he's clueless.
Spy has nothing, just a backstab then go for trickstabs and only the kunai can make spy tank a hit, kunai isn't a crutch, it's the weapon of choice of spies risking themselves for trickstabs rather that using the big earner, stab once then flew away, the dead ringer is worst that the invis watch in almost every way, with the invis you can get hit once by hale, fly with the knockback to a healthkit, then you're good, with the dead ringer you don't have no second hit, you need to wait the recharge time because at melee range you're dead, especially if hale's ping is high but it's not like playing with 500 ping is even unrecommended, and it's not like ping always favors the attacker, but that's another story.
Spy and trolldier, besides demoknight are the only classes that can do reliable damage with their melee, against a fast boi that can one hit you, they're anything but low risks classes, every other classes can stay at range, alright spy can use the revolver and soldier can use the direct hit but direct hit has a smaller blast radius for rocket jump which makes it slightly less valable with the mg and spy revolver is so damn boring, like yeah, the invis watch/letranger spy that just shoots hale 3 times to have the cloak full again, staying 80% of the game invis is not a crutch but trickstabing with the kunai is ?
I have played on the server as spy and trolldier way more often that most people playing nowdays, definitely more than you, as it's cristal clear that I'm right about it, my explanations are logical and right, maybe not written well, maybe I'm not calm when I'm writing, but I'm right and I'm saying the truth, no matter what people say about me, it will never matter, I don't give up, you guys are lowkey toxic people, rare are the people that can argue without being laughed at as I can see, this won't help other players communicate better on the forums, it doesn't affect me because people that fight for truth are more hated, as hard truths can be really hard to be heard for some.
It might be hard to read it it but you can't do anything but cherry picking on my explainations, see if there's a slight mistake, that's sad, you shouldn't be doing this, hopefully, all of you will gain wisdom, intelligence and heart.
Whatever if you think that 750 is too high for a minimum then 600 should be perfect, I'm just shocked that 2 pipes do more damage that a backstab, 600 isn't even a big difference.
Anyway, I'm really tired so there might be some mistakes like grammar or things that doesn't sound right in english but does in french so go along and cherry pick them, I did my job of staying impartial, fair and true, I edited it so nvm
edit:grammar and corrections