Resolved Feldethain - Mass freekill + LR denial

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AntiAntFilms

Mildly Menacing Medic
Summary:
Mass freekill + LR denial

Player Name:
Feldethain

SteamID:
[U:1:48295387]
https://stats.skial.com/#summary/player/SteamID/All/[U:1:48295387]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:48295387]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:48295387]

Time:
now

Servers:
JAILBREAK | NY

Detailed Explanation / Screenshots / Demos:
Feldethain was ignoring LR (say something or else invalid) which wasn't the main issue. The main issue was after FD was given due to not giving a valid order after 7:30 (I forgot exactly what time) and he kept repeating that because it was something he didn't want to say (gay brony or something like that) he didn't want to do LR and Freekilled many people.
 
AntiAnt the admins probably are gonna mark this invalid. I have two demos with the evidence. I'll take care of it later because I honestly don't feel like doing it now.
 
When the last request comes to something as uncomfortable as "After every order, the warden has to say 'because I'm a gay furry brony.' or else order is invalid." (or some other jarring equivalent, I'm just paraphrasing), then how am I to proceed with something that I simply don't want to do that's THAT uncomfortable? That's not an issue that's covered for rules, it's a blatant and harmful disregard for what people do and do not perceive as socially okay. Of which I did not, but Tyler, the LR-giver did.

I knew I were to be warden next, and I even said during that round, "No. Pick another one. I am not doing that one." with obvious reason as to why I shouldn't need to, it's fair enough, makes sense. Even then, the next round, I said it again "I do not care for what the last request was, it's not something I want to do." And honestly, with the rules, something like that backs you into a corner. There have been numerous times where people have been told "You can't just say freeday, because that's denying LR" as is leaving the server and coming back, so under what pretense am I not held to say something I do not want to say, purely because they are game rules. It is vastly disrespectful of people who play, their experiences within and out of the game, so with the freedom to make someone say ANY statement and be essentially forced to do it, or risk being banned from the server, what on bloody fucking earth are you to do?

This is similar to the numerous incidents in the same server regarding the "shipping"/relationship-pressuring of underaged UNWILLING participants. People go on the server as a social hub, maybe to play minigames or what other have you. Not to have dozens of people shout at you "It's not okay to break the rules of the LR of "You have to go on a 'date' with x person at y location all round" and when it came to the fact that even ADMINS were defending the actions of upholding the LR, it was defending the unwilling paedophilia between the two targets that made them uncomfortable.

This instance, while in certain less caliber than the paedophilic behaviour, still holds the same principle. Just because the person ordering someone to do something finds it fun or doesn't bother/affect them, doesn't mean it won't bother or affect you. Labels carry on, DESPITE what the server-goers think. To this day, I still hear lines of "Feldey-boy" and "My names Felde and I like little boys" and it's not something I find enjoyable. People like to make recordings or binds of that egregious flak, so I'm not going to allow myself to be affected by that by letting children incite more false titles on me.

So yes, I continued the round as normal, and under the pretense of what the last request WAS, you would understand why one shouldn't have to abide by that. Purely for lack of comfort, or simply for being banned by not stating an untruth that can carry on with you for god knows how long. So to those that can't understand basic human emotion past your own (or just skipped to this paragraph and proved the rest of this post irrelevant), have some decency to look past editable rules on paper and see how it affects real fucking people.

Ciao.
 
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Demo 1, Tick 521800 - I give my lr "After every order warden must say 'because Im a sexy gay brony' otherwise invalid"
https://mega.nz/#!EmoixYTC!v_YlKHN72gOnW2-zIHrqF_vOVcs6vVkg5nq1jLMSAbo
(Sorry for the demo being too long I completely forgot I was recording until right before I started recording the second demo)
Demo 2, Tick 50 - Becomes Revokable Freeday
Demo 2, Tick 500 - Freekills AntiAnt
Demo 2, Tick 2000 - Freekills ElSebas
Demo 2, Tick 2600 - Freekills Neon Mamacita
Demo 2, Tick 3000 - Freekills Yobri and becomes irrevokable freeday
Demo 2, Tick 3200 - Freekills Relic
Demo 2, Tick 3300 - Freekills B-Woo
Everything else in the second demo is Milly and Felde ranting.
https://mega.nz/#!QuoniBAI!vRSwNP9dpLfoU0hGIKJfEIZJLDQuc6x2pfg-eNivwEo

@Luke Here is the evidence you asked for.
Have a good night! <3
 
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The fact that you disregard the entire statement I made as "ranting" really nails down the point that "Hey, maybe when the rules drive someone to utmost uncomfortability, I should maybe step back and reflect on what about that isn't something they want to do, not as a petty statement, but something they completely disavow on a personal level, you know, perhaps with prior life experiences pertaining to similar moments." isn't a mindset you have. Maybe for once, just understand one point. I said "fuck off, I'm not doing it." There's literally no limit to what someone can force someone to say or risk a ban on the server. You could essentially make someone say things pertaining to vile, illegal, and vehemently disgusting acts and behaviours, but you have to deal with it because "Them's is rules."?

Again, and with utmost sincerity, you can kindly fuck off, and perhaps look past rules for once and not be a twat about it. I told you numerous times that it's discomforting, and the current ruleset allows degenerate behaviour like that to continue, however no one else on the server abides by it due to having common courtesy to real, living players.
 
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The fact that you disregard the entire statement I made as "ranting" really nails down the point that "Hey, maybe when the rules drive someone to utmost uncomfortability, I should maybe step back and reflect on what about that isn't something they want to do, not as a petty statement, but something they completely disavow on a personal level, you know, perhaps with prior life experiences pertaining to similar moments." isn't a mindset you have. Maybe for once, just understand one point. I said "fuck off, I'm not doing it." There's literally no limit to what someone can force someone to say or risk a ban on the server. You could essentially make someone say things pertaining to vile, illegal, and vehemently disgusting acts and behaviours, but you have to deal with it because "Them's is rules."?

Again, and with utmost sincerity, you can kindly fuck off, and perhaps look past rules for once and not be a twat about it. I told you numerous times that it's discomforting, and the current ruleset allows degenerate behaviours like that to continue, however no one else on the server abides by it due to having common courtesy to real, living players.
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I see where you are coming from, despite the fact that if I were you I'd feel completely comfortable doing it. Nobody likes to do or saying things that make them feel uncomfortable and nobody likes to be cyberbullied or harassed. Just because I reported you doesn't mean I don't agree with you and despise you. I'm making a rule suggestion for the "LR can require that the Warden says something with each order" as I'm typing this. So, how about you just take a minute and calm down.

My opinion has changed in the last few hours and everything you've said I agree with, but with the current state of the rules, you must do the lr because there are no limitations to the "LR can require that the Warden says something with each order" type of lr. Not doing so is gonna result in a ban. I know, it sucks, but the Jb rules suck. I'm gonna try my best to make sure there are limitations to that type of lr so everyone in Jb can feel comfortable, but I can't promise anything. I just want you to know that I haven't ignored anything you've said.

From your enemy, Tyler~
 
According to the Jailbreak rules:

You should follow the requirements for the Last Request (if not listed, no requirements):
  • Restricting the orders of the Warden's through the LR - auto-granted on round start
    • LR can require that the Warden says something with each order
Tyler, the one who gave LR/Last Request in the first demo, did nothing wrong as he told you to say "because I'm a sexy gay brony" after each order which was not breaking any rule. However, you denied that Last Request and mass freekilled the players who went out of cells at 7:30 when no valid orders were said by you. You could have at least give a Freeday for everyone so you do not have to say "because I'm a sexy gay brony" after every order. Also, complaining about not doing it made the whole argument worse. Milly Bays tried to defend you but he clearly knew what you were doing was against the rules and he didn't want to start another "relationship" on the server.
(Ex. in the second demo provided by Tyler, Milly Bays mention how Luke said to him: How are you and N3x? Milly got uncomfortable with it because he mention that he didn't feel comfortable on how people think a 20 year old man is dating a 12 year old boy.)
Milly could have atleast muted the players by pressing Esc, click the mute players icon on the resume game bar, scroll to the players, highlight their names, and click Mute in-game voice, or double-click their name and doing this will make it so he won't see their chats or hear their voice in the voice chat.
Thank you for your time.
 
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