Resolved travisty98 - Sitting in AFK

[Salty Mcpepperson]

Summary:
Sitting in Spectators.

Player Name:
travisty98

SteamID:
[U:1:20675605]
https://stats.skial.com/#summary/player/SteamID/All/[U:1:20675605]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:20675605]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:20675605]

Time:
now

Servers:
2FORT+ | LA | Fast

Detailed Explanation / Screenshots / Demos:
Player has been in AFK for 30minutes and is just typing.


2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/29/2017 - 10:00:30 PM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/29/2017 - 10:00:30 PM Suicided with world

 

[Fenix]

They may have been spectating, but they were chatting and participating, not AFK. Spectators are still at risk of being forced onto a team, or kicked entirely. Our servers do a pretty good job of handling these types of situations depending on player numbers and load. The thing we take issue with is when a player is dodging the AFK manager that would normally take control of their character.

 

[Luke]

The thing we take issue with is when a player is dodging the AFK manager that would normally take control of their character.

I don't think you looked into this enough.

2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:54:41 AM Killed Blackbeard with machina
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:49:55 AM Joined Red
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:47:01 AM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:47:01 AM Suicided with world
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:46:51 AM Joined Red
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:00:30 AM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:00:30 AM Suicided with world
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 06:00:21 AM Joined Red
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:58:39 AM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:58:39 AM Suicided with world
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:58:12 AM Killed by RL to EB with sniperrifle
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:57:59 AM Joined Blue
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:56:48 AM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:56:48 AM Suicided with world
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:56:40 AM Killed by MonkeySpanker with blackbox
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:56:29 AM Joined Blue
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:54:08 AM Joined Spectator
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:54:08 AM Suicided with world
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:52:15 AM Switch to sniper
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:52:12 AM Switch to medic
2FORT+ | LA | Fast 06/30/2017 - 05:49:12 AM Killed Nate with machina

They did something at 05:49:12 and again at 06:54:41 - so there's nearly an hour of them doing nothing.
Between these times however, they changed class, suicided, changed team - this is avoiding the AFK system.
You can see the time between each action, 3 minutes, 3 seconds, 2 minutes, 0 seconds, 2 minutes, etc...
...they never give the system enough time to manage them, so they're avoiding.

This is the same as if someone was sat in spawn running around and changing class... they're avoiding it.

 

[Fenix]

If you go back and look at chat logs, they are typing the whole time. I believe it is exactly what I said earlier that the server was forcing him onto a team. That force happens quickly sometimes, I know when I am trying to spectate someone it does exactly what is shown, minutes between forces. I don't think they were dodging anything, just wanted to be in spec typing to whoever they were having a conversation with, and the server kept forcing them out of spec.

 

[Luke]

If you go back and look at chat logs, they are typing the whole time. I believe it is exactly what I said earlier that the server was forcing him onto a team. That force happens quickly sometimes, I know when I am trying to spectate someone it does exactly what is shown, minutes between forces. I don't think they were dodging anything, just wanted to be in spec typing to whoever they were having a conversation with, and the server kept forcing them out of spec.

That is textbook AFK avoidance.

Sitting in spectator for that long isn't allowed, if the server is trying to put you on a team - you should be on a team.
The AFK system waits a few minutes, puts you in a team, waits a few minutes, takes control over you.
Then once the server is full* - you are kicked/moved to seed another server.

If you're stopping any part of that system, then you're avoiding the AFK manager -
When someone wants to just talk - fine, let the AFK bot take over and just talk.
If they're sitting in spectator and talking then they are wasting a slot.

*which it was a few times during him avoiding the system.

 

[Fenix]

I don't know about textbook avoidance, I'd say that would be a script that makes them walk, or purposefully goes between team and spec. I know it's annoying af when I'm trying to spec a cheater and it keeps forcing me, but I'm not dodging anything.

Oh well, whatever, that's why we have more than one admin; different strokes for different folks.

 

[Luke]

I don't know about textbook avoidance, I'd say that would be a script that makes them walk, or purposefully goes between team and spec. I know it's annoying af when I'm trying to spec a cheater and it keeps forcing me, but I'm not dodging anything.

Oh well, whatever, that's why we have more than one admin; different strokes for different folks.

If you're doing something purposeful then that's fine - if you click around during spectator it will stop that (ie. left click then immediately right click) by the way.
However doing it for that long is extremely excessive. There's no way for the system to kick them out of the server from what this player is doing.

 

[Fenix]

if you click around during spectator it will stop that (ie. left click then immediately right click) by the way.

I've only had to do that when it was going to kick me for AFK, and I got warnings before that; forcing you onto a team gives no warning and I don't want to have to keep clicking and potentially miss something.

There's no way for the system to kick them out of the server from what this player is doing.

Spectators and AFK are first to go when a donor joins.

It's no biggie, you got it, checks and balances man.

 

[Luke]

Spectators and AFK are first to go when a donor joins.

It only kicks them after a few minutes of them being AFK.
This person would've never been classed as being AFK.

It's no biggie, you got it, checks and balances man.

No problem, just trying to explain properly.
Nothing against you personally of course.