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Òmahkapi'si "Wolf"

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From what I have seen, people are starting to abuse the AFK bots. (TX Dustbowl server). I have attached a video of myself using said AFK bot. From my experience, the bot can see through/around walls and has a fairly high acc. The way that it can turn quickly and lock onto targets makes it pretty hard to beat if a medic is pocketing them. Please note, no external hacks/bots were used in this video. Everything seen is done by the Skial AFK manager.
 
This just just be me but I feel like the AFK bots are more work than they are worth using. This i just how iv been seeing it, since the bots seen to be having so many problems and I never (personally) never saw the real full reason for them in the first place.
 
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This just just be me but I feel like the AFK bots are more work than they are worth using. This i just how iv been seeing it, since the bots seen to be having so many problems and I never (personally) never saw the real full reason for them in the first place.

I'd rather have a barely responsive bot than what is basically an empty slot.
 
The bots do detect me an awful lot more than actual players, especially if I do a rocket jump to sneak up on them from the air.

I dont see what was wrong with the old AFK system, where you get rid of the afk people and make room for new players. A lot of the people who go AFK never even come back anyways, so now somebody who's not playing is taking up a spot longer than before.

But suggestions/complaints rarely get constructive answers by staff anyways (not including admins). Just the typical ''ur an idiet for sayein that'' responses.
 
But suggestions/complaints rarely get constructive answers by staff anyways (not including admins). Just the typical ''ur an idiet for sayein that'' responses.

The Skial staff largely handles forum/server moderation, Bottiger handles all the server related matters like plugins, coding, etc. so we usually can't give much for information/answers since its not our field.

As for the bots and AFK system, if I'm not mistaken Skial still uses the same AFK system before the bots were implemented. The only difference is a AFK player will be turned into a bot instead of sitting in spawn while the afk manager timer ticks down. I'm assuming the idea behind it is to have a bot helping your team instead of having a AFK person taking up a slot for a bit.

And I agree the bots are a bit too good in some areas. But they're not regular Valve bots, so Bottiger might be able to tweak them since he coded them if I'm not mistaken.
 
But suggestions/complaints rarely get constructive answers by staff anyways (not including admins). Just the typical ''ur an idiet for sayein that'' responses.

I'm calling you out on this because I've read through a lot of the suggestion threads since joining and typically the tone from both admins and non-admins is respectful.

I would hope that you back these claims with some evidence because otherwise I see this as your way of just complaining for the sake of complaining because you aren't getting your way.
 
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The Skial staff largely handles forum/server moderation, Bottiger handles all the server related matters like plugins, coding, etc. so we usually can't give much for information/answers since its not our field...

I'm calling you out on this because I've read through a lot of the suggestion threads since joining and typically the tone from both admins and non-admins is respectful.

I did exclude admins/mods from that, I guess I basically just meant bottiger. Though I had just woken up when I wrote that and reading it now I realize it was kinda dumb lol, I guess it's just a vibe I get from Bottiger that he seems to hate anyone 'meddling' with his work. That's really it. He's doing a great job obviously, I guess you just don't do it big in this business because of your great social skills.

Meow: I can't find it right now so don't quote me on this, but if I remember correctly Bottiger did say in an earlier thread about bots (when they first ''came out'') that it takes longer for the player to get kicked. And I remember people complaining about it in the beginning on the server - maybe people got used to it or maybe the bots system has since changed. Seems a bit buggy tho, yesterday a guy was standing in the spawn (not moving once) for approx 20-30 mins. And getting a ban vote to go through is as achievable as Helen Mirrens butthole. Only a few pass through..

Bots are great in theory, but I still prefer to just have afk players be replaced by new players.
 
I did exclude admins/mods from that, I guess I basically just meant bottiger. Though I had just woken up when I wrote that and reading it now I realize it was kinda dumb lol, I guess it's just a vibe I get from Bottiger that he seems to hate anyone 'meddling' with his work. That's really it. He's doing a great job obviously, I guess you just don't do it big in this business because of your great social skills.

Bottiger is just usually very straight to the point with his posts which can sometimes leave room for 'tone' misinterpretations. As far as I can assume based off what I've seen he's very open to feedback. It doesn't mean he's always going to agree, but he does certainly listen. Everything I've seen him do is to either please the players and / or retain players. He's custom made plugins and changed them up quite a bit based off the player feedback he's gotten.

Meow: I can't find it right now so don't quote me on this, but if I remember correctly Bottiger did say in an earlier thread about bots (when they first ''came out'') that it takes longer for the player to get kicked. And I remember people complaining about it in the beginning on the server - maybe people got used to it or maybe the bots system has since changed. Seems a bit buggy tho, yesterday a guy was standing in the spawn (not moving once) for approx 20-30 mins. And getting a ban vote to go through is as achievable as Helen Mirrens butthole. Only a few pass through..

He might of changed up how the AFK manager works, I'm not quite sure myself. But if you want the bot system removed/improved I would suggest make a suggestion in the suggestions section, it will likely be taken more seriously there.
 
I have seen afk bots hang around for over 5 minutes. I can record a demo asap if you would like. This time should really be decreased to 2 minutes max.

That and the heavy and medic bot never miss which is pretty frustrating.