Melondrea

Mildly Menacing Medic
Summary:
Abuse of his Admin powers
Player Name:
[Furry] Meowcenary
SteamID:
STEAM_0:1:19150564
Time:
now
Servers:
2FORT | TX
Detailed Explanation / Screenshots / Demos:
There was a situation about an hour ago which I believe was handled very poorly by your Admin, Meowcenary. On other threads, as you may have seen, there was a supposed hacker. It was apparent to all of us at the time that he was hacking, but (not so) mysteriously, he became mortal again right when your Admin (Meowcenary) showed up.

Now, almost immediately before Meowcenary arrived, a man named "Sam the Sam" had just gone on a rampage in voice chat. He was going crazy about the hacker and, frankly, he just wouldn't shut up. Several people had told him (both in voice and text chat) that he needed to cool down (because he was annoying almost everyone in the server).

Well, when Meowcenary showed up, he declared the hacker innocent and muted "Sam the Sam"'s so-called "wife" for multiple instances of racism and sacreligious talk (a completely justified mute, in my opinion). Well, clearly, "Sam the Sam" didn't appreciate this and this set him off. He proceeded to talk (almost nonstop) in voice chat for about half an hour. Many people (including myself) tried to calm him down, and when I finally felt that I had enough, I typed up !votemenu and started the vote to mute and gag him.

As with 99% of votes that ever happens on Skial servers, it didn't pass. However, Meowcenary felt that it was nessicary to MUTE ME from the server because "Sam the Sam" was whining like a child in voice chat about some of the people trying to calm him down (specifically me and another guy named "jOhN cEnA etc." or something like that). He felt that my calling for a vote was an abuse of the vote system, and that it warranted a 24 hour mute of me.

I feel that a 24 hour mute was completely unwarranted and unjust punishment for me doing what I felt was necessary to defuse the situation. On top of all of this, something I haven't mentioned yet is that "Sam the Sam" was also using derogatory words in voice chat on a regular basis. I don't know if Meowcenary was off getting a soda or something, but he swore to me that he heard nothing of this. And, on top of everything else, "Sam the Sam"'s reaction to Meowcenary's muting his "wife" went a little something like this: "those god da*n immigrants taking our jobs and then coming on the internet just to be lazy admins." Obviously, I don't know what he said word-for-word, but that sums it up pretty nicely. Another instance of something he said that Meowcenary swears to me he didn't hear.

Clearly, I'm upset about how Meowcenary handeled this whole situation. I would appreciate some kind of comfort that Admins are not encouraged to use their powers in a biased manner however they see fit, even if that means punishing the innocent for doing something with good intentions. I don't know if I'll be coming back to Skial servers after this incident, but I sincerely hope that situations like this don't occur often on your servers.

Regards,
Melondrea​
 
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I joined the server to spectate a alleged hacker. I didn't see anything that looked out of the ordinary but there was other rule breaking going on. I silenced someone for racism, the person I silenced apparently had a husband that was playing with her and he wasn't too happy about it. I was talking to him about the rules and how we go about enforcing some of them.

Then you came along and votemuted the guy. He was talking consistently but nothing that I would consider spam, so I took it as voteabuse and muted you.

He was not talking for half an hour straight. The conversation I had with him was roughly 5 to 8 minutes long, he was getting "passionate" (for a lack of a better word) at times but nothing that I felt constituted spam.
 
Accusing an active and reliable admin of abusing his command-access is fierce to do.

When reading the story, I am eager to stand behind my fellow admin in his decision. If you don't like someone talking, client mute him.

If someone is hacking, collect evidence in case he stops when an admin arrives.
 
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Alleged hacker wasn't hacking, he was just being pocketed, bisexual guy got mad at our faith and superior skill, and he was also very mad because his supposedly real wife got muted, and he started going on a vocal rampage, pretending the skial rules are the declaration of independence and such.
Honestly, it did go for half an hour straight, not taking sides, but when the admin joined the majority of the ran was well, already ranted.
 
The vote menu is used to gag or mute players breaking the rules without having call an admin. Being anoying is not against the rules. Meowcenary was well within his right to silence you.
 
Well I am the "supposive" wife of Sam the Sam and it was a constant being called a he and transgendered and a fag. I wasnt pissed that I got muted and gagged which I have an appeal for. I was annoyed that Meow said that it is ok to say faggot and use homophobic slurs but not ok to say nigger or any other racial bullshit. Clearly the rules say no racism or anything hateful towards religion or sexual orientation. That is where the problem lies. You can not say its ok to say one thing and not the other when the rules clearly state that you can not do either. Being told constantly that since im supposively a transgendered woman and all the gay hate towards my husband from the religious people was allowed its kind of a hypocrit kind of situation. I am a shit talker. I talk shit and I troll which is not against the rules but me being racist towards someone who was being ignorant with homosexual slurs and so on is wrong. I am not saying 2 wrongs make a right but doing something about me and no one else other then mel is completely wrong..
 
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Well I am the "supposive" wife of Sam the Sam and it was a constant being called a he and transgendered and a fag. I wasnt pissed that I got muted and gagged which I have an appeal for. I was annoyed that Meow said that it is ok to say faggot and use homophobic slurs but not ok to say nigger or any other racial bullshit. Clearly the rules say no racism or anything hateful towards religion or sexual orientation. That is where the problem lies. You can not say its ok to say one thing and not the other when the rules clearly state that you can not do either. Being told constantly that since im supposively a transgendered woman and all the gay hate towards my husband from the religious people was allowed its kind of a hypocrit kind of situation. I am a shit talker. I talk shit and I troll which is not against the rules but me being racist towards someone who was being ignorant with homosexual slurs and so on is wrong. I am not saying 2 wrongs make a right but doing something about me and no one else other then mel is completely wrong..

From what I've read from some other admins, we don't enforce the insults towards gender/religion/etc as strictly as we do racism. I remember reading awhile back that its there as more of a "just in case" rule. I'll try looking for the quote.

I'm not saying (nor was I trying to say) that you can thrash on someone's sexual orientation/gender/whatever with no consequences, just that the rule isn't enforced as strictly. In this particular case, I didn't feel what the person said was enough for me to silence him over.

If any admins want to take a look and give a second opinion here is his chatlogs: http://stats.skial.com/stats/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=3991128
 
Well I am the "supposive" wife of Sam the Sam. . .
I don't know why you would make an appeal, since you were deliberately and compulsively calling someone on the server a "beaner" and "talking shit" about his religion, which he didn't even shove down your throat. If I remember correctly, all he said was "Jesus loves you" or something of the sort.

The vote menu is used to gag or mute players breaking the rules without having call an admin. Being anoying is not against the rules. Meowcenary was well within his right to silence you.
That's understandable, and I suppose I'd agree with you. I wasn't even that upset that I was muted, rather, that "Sam the Sam" wasn't muted when he was being racially insensitive and religiously intolerant. Muting "Sam the Sam" would have diffused the situation entirely. Muting me only caused it to go on for a short while longer.

Honestly, it did go for half an hour straight, not taking sides, but when the admin joined the majority of the ran was well, already ranted.
That's basically what I was trying to say, but you summed it up better than me.

If someone is hacking, collect evidence in case he stops when an admin arrives.
Honestly, by the time I joined the server, they had already been talking about his hacking for a while. I just got the tail end of this conversation. When I was killed multiple times by him, I was more likely inclined to believe that he was hacking, but there's no way that I (for sure) could confirm. I apologize if I had wrongly accused him. However, there was talk that apparently someone on the server got video evidence of this guy hacking (which is what inclined me to believe he was hacking, along with how passionately everyone believed he was a hacker). If someone could post this video evidence, I'd love to take a look at it.
 
That's understandable, and I suppose I'd agree with you. I wasn't even that upset that I was muted, rather, that "Sam the Sam" wasn't muted when he was being racially insensitive and religiously intolerant. Muting "Sam the Sam" would have diffused the situation entirely. Muting me only caused it to go on for a short while longer.

I didn't mute sam for racism because I don't recall him saying anything racist. If I heard him say something that broke the rules I would silence him