noonecanbanthejoshchap
Somewhat Threatening Sniper
this guy gives everyone on the server cancer and his presence makes everyone sick.
Declined Admin App: Tactical Grace
- Thread starter Tactical Grace
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Hello admins and fellow Skial form users
I’m here to put my point forward of why I think and may other people of Skial EU3 Dustbowl think that Tactical Grace should not become a admin.
1. Here I quote “Throughout day, mostly 8-11” he said in voice chat he works and he only get 1 hour a day to play. So that’s a lie I do not hold any proof but I know people that can stick up for me on this point.
2. Every time he joins EU3 the sever dies. Most of the regulars of EU stop using the mic or leave and people in chat just no longer talk.
3. He intimidates players when he joins is his way or the highway so to speak.
4. A few regulars of EU 3 have said to me if he becomes an admin they will leave Skial.
5. The community of EU3 Has been amazing for sometime even when an admin comes on “Astir”
6. TF2 is meant to be fun but when he is on the server he makes it boring and if he is made an admin, things will only go downhill.
7. He has also try to ban me for going heavy and taunt killing people. Also I still play the objective when doing this is it against the rule to ban someone for having fun and still playing the objective in Skial.
8. As said before The EU3 community will lose a high amount of players if he is made an admin.
9. Admins are supposed to be friendly and help the Skial community in my mind he will not be.
10. EU3 has died before where it had like 4 players out of 24 playing due to a troll that’s has since been banned once all the regulars rejoined and the sever when the back up to 24 full all the time.
11. Many players have joined Skial EU3 and said what an amazing community that this server has and have since joined and joined. This also includes people that join Skial for the first time I’ve not seen it once when tactical joins.
I have been on Skial for a very long most of my TF2 game time is on skial. I love the community and the admins. Ok on my 1st ban not too long ago I was a jerk I know. I’ve not seen Meany admins on EU3 But when a troll comes on it sorts its self out or a hacker. So admins take it from a long time severing EU3 Dustbowl community member and many other please do not make Tactical Grace an admin
Thanks for reading
Beat it's sexy Ducky / Ducky / Duck /
|EC| Duck.
I’m here to put my point forward of why I think and may other people of Skial EU3 Dustbowl think that Tactical Grace should not become a admin.
1. Here I quote “Throughout day, mostly 8-11” he said in voice chat he works and he only get 1 hour a day to play. So that’s a lie I do not hold any proof but I know people that can stick up for me on this point.
2. Every time he joins EU3 the sever dies. Most of the regulars of EU stop using the mic or leave and people in chat just no longer talk.
3. He intimidates players when he joins is his way or the highway so to speak.
4. A few regulars of EU 3 have said to me if he becomes an admin they will leave Skial.
5. The community of EU3 Has been amazing for sometime even when an admin comes on “Astir”
6. TF2 is meant to be fun but when he is on the server he makes it boring and if he is made an admin, things will only go downhill.
7. He has also try to ban me for going heavy and taunt killing people. Also I still play the objective when doing this is it against the rule to ban someone for having fun and still playing the objective in Skial.
8. As said before The EU3 community will lose a high amount of players if he is made an admin.
9. Admins are supposed to be friendly and help the Skial community in my mind he will not be.
10. EU3 has died before where it had like 4 players out of 24 playing due to a troll that’s has since been banned once all the regulars rejoined and the sever when the back up to 24 full all the time.
11. Many players have joined Skial EU3 and said what an amazing community that this server has and have since joined and joined. This also includes people that join Skial for the first time I’ve not seen it once when tactical joins.
I have been on Skial for a very long most of my TF2 game time is on skial. I love the community and the admins. Ok on my 1st ban not too long ago I was a jerk I know. I’ve not seen Meany admins on EU3 But when a troll comes on it sorts its self out or a hacker. So admins take it from a long time severing EU3 Dustbowl community member and many other please do not make Tactical Grace an admin
Thanks for reading
Beat it's sexy Ducky / Ducky / Duck /
|EC| Duck.
Zefyre
Gore-Spattered Heavy
Especially the second one is confusing.
-1 unless the other things the people above me posted are proven false
from personal experience as a lead mod on a different game, this comment on your profile:
is definitely not the correct way to approach anybody even if they're the worst troll ever
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RandomFerret
Scarcely Lethal Noob
Hello everyone, I'm a regular of EU3 and have over 940 hours played on Skial servers according to HL statsX. I'm just posting this message as food for thought. I felt obliged to post this because I fear my favorite TF2 server: Dustbowl EU 3 being destroyed by the overzealous Tactical Grace.
I've talked to Tactical Grace about the rules and discretion as doesn't seem to fully grasp the concept of discretion. Discretion to me is a huge part of being an admin. An admin gains more respect if he uses his discretion wisely, and prevents players feeling resentment. When someone had said the word "nigger" on the server he reported them, this caused more than one player to try to intervene and defend the other player. Tactical simply seems to view the rules in a black and white. This is not good for a close community, which often engages in "banter" (not racist).
Tactical grace comes on EU3 often, interrupting our enjoyable game play and enforcing rules rigidly. There are many regulars on the server who almost despise Tactical. The animosity towards Tactical Grace is fueled by this rigid following of the rules. I've tried adding Tactical Grace to discuss issues that he's got about what something I've said/done but he simply chooses to ignore/mute my or anyone else's voice (a very poor way to deal with a situation if people invest trust and power in you. Just so everyone is aware, Tactical has reported me more than once (just so everyone knows).
I oppose Tactical Grace being an admin because I fear what will happen to the Dustbowl EU 3 server that I frequently play on with friends. I foresee Tactical Grace being an overzealous, and will impair the servers that he moderates HEAVILY. He's already intimidated people to the point of not wanting to speak in case of an overzealous ban.
Thank you for reading my post, it bored even myself, but I only wrote it to try and save my dear Dustbowl: EU 3.
Ferret/Ferré/A Random Ferret
P.s The reason Tactical Grace votes people is because he "Wants to become an admin.". This is a bad idea, as it leads to him trying to hit "targets" for reports and bans to favor his report.
I've talked to Tactical Grace about the rules and discretion as doesn't seem to fully grasp the concept of discretion. Discretion to me is a huge part of being an admin. An admin gains more respect if he uses his discretion wisely, and prevents players feeling resentment. When someone had said the word "nigger" on the server he reported them, this caused more than one player to try to intervene and defend the other player. Tactical simply seems to view the rules in a black and white. This is not good for a close community, which often engages in "banter" (not racist).
Tactical grace comes on EU3 often, interrupting our enjoyable game play and enforcing rules rigidly. There are many regulars on the server who almost despise Tactical. The animosity towards Tactical Grace is fueled by this rigid following of the rules. I've tried adding Tactical Grace to discuss issues that he's got about what something I've said/done but he simply chooses to ignore/mute my or anyone else's voice (a very poor way to deal with a situation if people invest trust and power in you. Just so everyone is aware, Tactical has reported me more than once (just so everyone knows).
I oppose Tactical Grace being an admin because I fear what will happen to the Dustbowl EU 3 server that I frequently play on with friends. I foresee Tactical Grace being an overzealous, and will impair the servers that he moderates HEAVILY. He's already intimidated people to the point of not wanting to speak in case of an overzealous ban.
Thank you for reading my post, it bored even myself, but I only wrote it to try and save my dear Dustbowl: EU 3.
Ferret/Ferré/A Random Ferret
P.s The reason Tactical Grace votes people is because he "Wants to become an admin.". This is a bad idea, as it leads to him trying to hit "targets" for reports and bans to favor his report.
You're basically saying "He reported me and my friends for breaking rules."
Is there anything else? Has he reported someone for doing something not against the rules?
RandomFerret
Scarcely Lethal Noob
Not that I am aware of. He was trying to gather evidence of the EU3 regulars and some other people who had joined in as shotgun heavy. I, and others felt uneasy about Tactical being around. I even recorded demos in case something happened...
People shouldn't have to fear about being muted over what they say unless they are racist, spamming, scamming, or abusing vote menu. Next time you're with your buds tell them to type /rules in chat so that they can review them and not have to worry, plus its pretty hard to accidentally break them since most of them are fairly straightforward.
Astir
Legendary Skial King
EU3 was my home server and I have befriended many of the regulars.
They aren't saints and so is no one. The difference is that when I was with them, the server didn't die because I guided them into abiding the rules using subtle remarks and warnings.
I have played with Tactical a few time and however I normally don't share myonion opinion (damn word predictor) on an applicant, I do not like his attitude nor do I trust him.
Yes, reporting players is necessary for everyone to do, but if you let a server die and regulars leave, there is something wrong with your attitude. I noticed that because of his presence the regulars who kept Dustbowl EU3 populated for the last year are moving towards other servers.
So in this case I will vouch for my friends (for they won't call an admin 'friend'). I have managed to let them follow the rules for an entire year without letting them leave. If you wonder wether I gave favored treatment to them, I didn't. You can go to the history of Josh and Ferret to see that even under my watch they shouldn't continue breaking rules. However, they returned.
It is his wrong (power hungry?) attitude that makes me not trust Tactical.
They aren't saints and so is no one. The difference is that when I was with them, the server didn't die because I guided them into abiding the rules using subtle remarks and warnings.
I have played with Tactical a few time and however I normally don't share my
Yes, reporting players is necessary for everyone to do, but if you let a server die and regulars leave, there is something wrong with your attitude. I noticed that because of his presence the regulars who kept Dustbowl EU3 populated for the last year are moving towards other servers.
So in this case I will vouch for my friends (for they won't call an admin 'friend'). I have managed to let them follow the rules for an entire year without letting them leave. If you wonder wether I gave favored treatment to them, I didn't. You can go to the history of Josh and Ferret to see that even under my watch they shouldn't continue breaking rules. However, they returned.
It is his wrong (power hungry?) attitude that makes me not trust Tactical.
I am playing for a long time on skial now and honestly i dont want him to be an admin. He sometimes starts votes for no reason and i could think about better admins...
RandomFerret
Scarcely Lethal Noob
This is was the point I tried to get over in my post, admins can enforce the rules just as Astir has done. tactical enforces the rules rigidly, and doesn't get any respect because of the regimental way he does it. Astir is a great guy, good fun to be around and talk to AND makes people follow the rules.
I don't know if they're saying this stuff because he's enforcing rules and they think he's a "fun killer" or if this is genuine since there's no proof. A lot of the people on Trade NY and Death Run have done the same thing to me because they want to mic spam and all that crap without me saying "it's against the rules". So, I don't know.
To add to that, there's nothing wrong with enforcing rules. If you break rules of Skial, you kind of are subject to mute/gag or ban, depending on what it is.
To add to that, there's nothing wrong with enforcing rules. If you break rules of Skial, you kind of are subject to mute/gag or ban, depending on what it is.
im stupid (deluxe)
Mildly Menacing Medic
Hey, I know I don't write here often but I do feel I need to give my opinion here. I do not think Tactical Grace is suitable to be an admin. Most encounters I've had with Tactical Grave have ended in arguments about either MLP, or why his actions are justified. He takes a tremendous amount of his time to bring as much 'justice' to servers as he can, and he tries to do this by constant harassing and threatening to report players. Tactical Grace's attitude is very close-minded and arrogant. What I mean by this, is that he reports everyone who disagrees with him (mostly when the player didn't even do anything against the rules). I believe that Tactical Grace would abuse his ability to get rid of people who disagree with him, rarely to punish people that do something against the rules.
I am not saying this because Tactical Grace and I don't see eye-to-eye, and we've had our disagreements. I'm saying this because I just cannot see Tactical Grace as an admin. I cannot imagine Tactical Grace being a proper admin, aiming to make the Skial servers a better place for players. Tactical Grace is nowhere near suitable to be a Skial admin.
I am not saying this because Tactical Grace and I don't see eye-to-eye, and we've had our disagreements. I'm saying this because I just cannot see Tactical Grace as an admin. I cannot imagine Tactical Grace being a proper admin, aiming to make the Skial servers a better place for players. Tactical Grace is nowhere near suitable to be a Skial admin.
To the people who are disagreeing to what I said, I'm going to say it again. There is nothing wrong with enforcing rules. From what I've heard of Tactical Grace, I feel like you guys are the kind of people who play music over the mic and get mad at him when he says it's against the rules. Which, by the way, is against the rules. Most of these comments that I've seen is about him being a "fun killer". I don't know if any of you have broken rules or if he's actually acting like a dictator and frankly, I don't care. Don't say he shouldn't become admin just because you want to continue to break rules on the server because that's what it looks like to me. And to reply to the person who got muted, changing your name while muted/gagged is also against the rules.
Zefyre
Gore-Spattered Heavy
I think that they mean Tactical my be acting that way for Admin and not because he actually is interested in the rules which I do not have an opinion on because I don't know Tactical
I think they are saying the manner which he does it isn't right. As in if you sing/play a song for 5-10 seconds he will outright mute you so that you'd be afraid of talking. He'll make you fear and detest admins instead of respecting them.
Hello The Renegade
What DanHack said is 100% correct. You can not do anything when he is on the sever is there is bad team layout he has a right go at you. He says that you are stopping the team from playing the proper way. All thought this is correct then when someone says "so what its a pub" he goes ballistic this is not a good manner to have when applying for admin he shows no respect to other or new players and the regulars of EU3 hate his attitude to us.
As you said above
However thanks for the neutral side on this matter. Also many thanks to DanHack for his comment too.
P.S Please tell me if it is wrong to sit in spectator if you are helping someone out. E.g a mate of mine need help with his spy game and i helped him by seeing what he does and if I can give him any tips. Then Tactical said that I am wasting my time sitting in spectator and implying that I have not life by saying "Dont you have anything better to do in your life other then sit in spec" This was some time ago but I would like to tell if it against the rules to help somebody out?
Thanks Duck
Also thanks for all the ratings on my last post :)
What DanHack said is 100% correct. You can not do anything when he is on the sever is there is bad team layout he has a right go at you. He says that you are stopping the team from playing the proper way. All thought this is correct then when someone says "so what its a pub" he goes ballistic this is not a good manner to have when applying for admin he shows no respect to other or new players and the regulars of EU3 hate his attitude to us.
As you said above
There is the odd one or two people that plays music on the mic yes 9 times out of 10 there is always a /Mute or /Ban for the player that is committing the offence. All of the regulars of EU3 know the rules and have known them for some time. The only way you will see the truth if you come on EU3 around 8 to 11 a clock at night and have a look for yourself. Yes I agree but to enforce them with no respect is another thing by making the small and timid people hide in a corner so to speak. Making them not what to come back to skial or Eu3. That is not how an admin acts from what I have seen.
However thanks for the neutral side on this matter. Also many thanks to DanHack for his comment too.
P.S Please tell me if it is wrong to sit in spectator if you are helping someone out. E.g a mate of mine need help with his spy game and i helped him by seeing what he does and if I can give him any tips. Then Tactical said that I am wasting my time sitting in spectator and implying that I have not life by saying "Dont you have anything better to do in your life other then sit in spec" This was some time ago but I would like to tell if it against the rules to help somebody out?
Thanks Duck
Also thanks for all the ratings on my last post :)