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1. When people complain about me using "W+M1", when I don't use "M1" at all.
2. Melee hits registering sounds and not actually hitting.
3. Medics that follow you out with full uber then run away without hitting it.
4. Medics that heal you 5% of your health before running away for seemingly no reason.
5.
Stupid people.
^ This. (which covers 1, 3, and 4)
 
When I have to uber a spy/sniper/engi/other medic as medic so I don't drop it.
 
THAT LAST STATEMENT

Also, pyros that use the M1+Q+M1 set and think they're good.


Disagree here atleast with the bottom statement. People find a way to bitch about anyway they die to a pyro. If you kill them with flamethrower you're a wm1 scrub. If you use flaregun, you're a m1qm1 scrub. If you use axtinguisher you're using a crutch..if you use powerjack "You're a set noob" (even though the set is long gone.) I respect a good pyro, don't see why it's so hard for other people to.
 
Disagree here atleast with the bottom statement. People find a way to bitch about anyway they die to a pyro. If you kill them with flamethrower you're a wm1 scrub. If you use flaregun, you're a m1qm1 scrub. If you use axtinguisher you're using a crutch..if you use powerjack "You're a set noob" (even though the set is long gone.) I respect a good pyro, don't see why it's so hard for other people to.

because pyros have such a high damage output with weapons.

I respect the axtinguisher, however, I do not respect the degreaser, it is really what broke the entire class for me. That and reflects getting minicrit bonuses and flare guns now doing full crits. I respected the pyro before they added these things, now it's like they keep adding things to buff the class without care of a "balance."

And I'm damn sure that plenty of people complain about the degreaser, however we didn't even see it get touched in Valve's big weapon update. Just make it slightly slower, and I might not hate the class so much.
 
Disagree here atleast with the bottom statement. People find a way to bitch about anyway they die to a pyro. If you kill them with flamethrower you're a wm1 scrub. If you use flaregun, you're a m1qm1 scrub. If you use axtinguisher you're using a crutch..if you use powerjack "You're a set noob" (even though the set is long gone.) I respect a good pyro, don't see why it's so hard for other people to.

Because pyro is a broken class. Before airblast/flaregun/axetinguisher the pyro was W+m1 people complained, so valve was like "Let's give the pyro weapons that instant kill everything so they don't W+M1 anymore."
You get crits for pressing M1 for a second then switching to any other weapon.

I REALLY don't want to start a flame war, but that's my opinoun.
 
Because pyro is a broken class. Before airblast/flaregun/axetinguisher the pyro was W+m1 people complained, so valve was like "Let's give the pyro weapons that instant kill everything so they don't W+M1 anymore."
You get crits for pressing M1 for a second then switching to any other weapon.

I REALLY don't want to start a flame war, but that's my opinoun.


If you let a pyro get close enough to you you deserve to die. Stay out of his effective range and you nullify him.

Let me amend my original post to things that annoy me: People who think that pyro is a noskill class but say absolutely nothing about heavy.
 
Because pyro is a broken class. Before airblast/flaregun/axetinguisher the pyro was W+m1 people complained, so valve was like "Let's give the pyro weapons that instant kill everything so they don't W+M1 anymore."
You get crits for pressing M1 for a second then switching to any other weapon.

I REALLY don't want to start a flame war, but that's my opinoun.

You must of left TF2 during the period when pyro was balanced and it wasn't a w+m1 spree.

Besides, I love w+m1 pyros, they're easy to track as sniper, and easy to market garden as soldier.
 
If you let a pyro get close enough to you you deserve to die. Stay out of his effective range and you nullify him.

Let me amend my original post to things that annoy me: People who think that pyro is a noskill class but say absolutely nothing about heavy.

Heavy has only one high DPS weapon. Sandvich is support, and lolgloves.

Pyros run at the normal speed of snipers and spies, even though they have a large health pool of 175 health, and they have multiple weapons and tons of ammo to use against enemies.
 
Heavy has only one high DPS weapon. Sandvich is support, and lolgloves.

Pyros run at the normal speed of snipers and spies, even though they have a large health pool of 175 health, and they have multiple weapons and tons of ammo to use against enemies.


If the flamethrower didn't do lower damage than the needlegun, perhaps they wouldnt of needed to give pyro a boost. As it is pyro does not see competitive play save very situationally. It's a weak class...if you are good at just about anything else you should be ransacking them.
 
If the enemy is in like mid-range I can basically just shoot my flare that is easier to move out of the way of than a rocket. Really, the only time people complain about me getting a kill is if I manage to ambush them and get them against a wall with the ax, other times it's just like "dang, lol, didn't see you there."

Every class is more effective at mid/long range than Pyro.
 
While I hate pyro in general, they don't bother me much when they're in the center of a crosshair that's moving with recoil
But degreaser+axtinguisher pisses me off to no end when that's all someone does
 
While I hate pyro in general, they don't bother me much when they're in the center of a crosshair that's moving with recoil
But degreaser+axtinguisher pisses me off to no end when that's all someone does


I agree axtinguisher could be modified. I don't think as a whole the kit is any more "overpowered" than other classes though. Pyro needs to be close to you to kill you..if you are even SLIGHTLY out of flame range they shouldn't be able to hit you with anything.
 
If the flamethrower didn't do lower damage than the needlegun, perhaps they wouldnt of needed to give pyro a boost. As it is pyro does not see competitive play save very situationally. It's a weak class...if you are good at just about anything else you should be ransacking them.


hard class
 
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Because I couldnt do that with just about any other class on any server...are you really trying to back your argument by someone sitting infront of a spawn that idiots keep running out of? Any class is good against stupid players.
 
I agree axtinguisher could be modified. I don't think as a whole the kit is any more "overpowered" than other classes though. Pyro needs to be close to you to kill you..if you are even SLIGHTLY out of flame range they shouldn't be able to hit you with anything.

I guess I should say is that I hate playing in pubs where the pyro gets to the snipers. I can't do anything about them if I can't quickscope them, and I can't quickscope them if they're too close. You know what's even better? Degreaser+reserver+axtinguisher
Even more instant death