Wondering why im banned??

  • If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.
OakyTree said:
I'd say based on the lack of reports of false positives and our inability to replicate the issue he's guilty of cheating. Whether or not he gets a second chance I won't comment on.

If I may ask, how long has this particular plugin been active?
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This plugin has been active for 2 days. It banned 5 people yesterday.

When we first loaded SMAC aimbot and cvar checking, we also had a lot of people complaining they weren't cheating, and now those complaints are nearly down to 0.
 
Bottiger said:
This plugin has been active for 2 days. It banned 5 people yesterday.

When we first loaded SMAC aimbot and cvar checking, we also had a lot of people complaining they weren't cheating, and now those complaints are nearly down to 0.
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Two days, five people. Not bad.
 
I've just fired off over 1000 pistol rounds. I did not trigger the auto-trigger detection even 1 time, and a ban is only issued when you do it 20 times. Here's what I did.
  1. I fired the pistol by holding down the left mouse button.
  2. I fired the pistol by typing +attack in the console.
  3. I fired the pistol by clicking as fast as possible.
  4. I fired the pistol by clicking as soon as it was ready to fire.
  5. I fired the pistol by doing 2 and 3 at the same time.
  6. I fired the pistol by doing 2 and 4 at the same time.
  7. I tried all this with a shotgun.
None of these things triggered even 1 detection.

If you admit you cheated, we will not ignore your request for an unban. We have unbanned people who have come clean before.
 
I cannot argue with the math and admit I dont know enough about the software you use to claim defect. I appreciate the testing you went to the trouble of doing. You have cleary explained the improbability of your detection failing and I myself could not trigger it on another skial server. Yet, I maintain my innocence. I have never cheated at TF2 on this or any other server. There could be no mistake where someone was messing with my software as im the only one that ever uses this computer. I cannot explain how it happened but I did not intentionally or unintentionally cheat. The events unfolded exactly as I described. It really sucks, I have enjoyed playing on your server and the successful trading ive done here, ive got a lot of regulars I will miss. But, if I cant convince you, I guess I will have to live with the ban and play elsewhere. It was fun while it lasted. Maybe over time this anti-cheat will prove itself less reliable than you think.

Thanks
 
my opinion is worth about as much as a turd floating down the Hudson River but if this system is as fool proof as everyone is making it out *which pretty much means the Universe has already found a fool to unproof it* and easymode is innocent like he protests, I say give him one last shot, if he's running any cheats, the current plugins or future ones will likely catch him again, either way the server will know the truth
 
I'd like to believe the current plugin will catch him again if he is really cheating, but if he can program, all it takes is to wait 2 frames (0.02 seconds) instead of 1 before auto-firing, and the detection is bypassed. If he is lying about cheating, I would expect he would do something like that.
 
Bottiger said:
I'd like to believe the current plugin will catch him again if he is really cheating, but if he can program, all it takes is to wait 2 frames (0.02 seconds) instead of 1 before auto-firing, and the detection is bypassed. If he is lying about cheating, I would expect he would do something like that.
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come on mate, ive met him a few times and he doesnt really cheat. Maybe its a bug or something
 
Bottiger said:
I'd like to believe the current plugin will catch him again if he is really cheating, but if he can program, all it takes is to wait 2 frames (0.02 seconds) instead of 1 before auto-firing, and the detection is bypassed. If he is lying about cheating, I would expect he would do something like that.
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Supposedly (if I interpreted tony's post correctly), detection method #2 will detect people attempting to use this method to get around the plugin.

★Kru¢кяaos™★ said:
come on mate, ive met him a few times and he doesnt really cheat. Maybe its a bug or something
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You've met him a couple of times and suddenly you're an expert on whether or not he cheats or has ever cheated? Seems legit.
 
My mouse has an auto fire feature (never used it in TF2 though since until today I thought holding down M1 gives you the maximum fire rate), could an admin please let me know if using it would be cheating or not?
 
Rvsz said:
My mouse has an auto fire feature (never used it in TF2 though since until today I thought holding down M1 gives you the maximum fire rate), could an admin please let me know if using it would be cheating or not?
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By autofire do you mean it just repeatedly reports button presses when held down? If so it's unlikely to cause a detection.
 
OakyTree said:
Supposedly (if I interpreted tony's post correctly), detection method #2 will detect people attempting to use this method to get around the plugin.

You've met him a couple of times and suddenly you're an expert on whether or not he cheats or has ever cheated? Seems legit.
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Detection 1 detects triggers immediately after the weapon is ready to fire, Detection 2 detects triggers 1 frame after the weapon is ready to fire.

If you keep adding more frames between cool-down and triggering, it will be harder to tell the difference between that and a real player.
 
Bottiger said:
Detection 1 detects triggers immediately after the weapon is ready to fire, Detection 2 detects triggers 1 frame after the weapon is ready to fire.

If you keep adding more frames between cool-down and triggering, it will be harder to tell the difference between that and a real player.
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I know it would trigger the auto detection, I just don't know if this is cheating or not? It isn't like a script or hack at all.
 
Rvsz said:
I know it would trigger the auto detection, I just don't know if this is cheating or not? It isn't like a script or hack at all.
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If you're so certain go test it on kc1. You should probably approve it with bott though.

I doubt a mouse macro would get you banned.

What mouse btw?
 
Bottiger said:
I've just fired off over 1000 pistol rounds. I did not trigger the auto-trigger detection even 1 time, and a ban is only issued when you do it 20 times. Here's what I did.
  1. I fired the pistol by holding down the left mouse button.
  2. I fired the pistol by typing +attack in the console.
  3. I fired the pistol by clicking as fast as possible.
  4. I fired the pistol by clicking as soon as it was ready to fire.
  5. I fired the pistol by doing 2 and 3 at the same time.
  6. I fired the pistol by doing 2 and 4 at the same time.
  7. I tried all this with a shotgun.
None of these things triggered even 1 detection.


If you admit you cheated, we will not ignore your request for an unban. We have unbanned people who have come clean before.
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For science, you should try binding +attack to your scroll wheel and sliding it up and down really fast.

I know this used to be done in CS 1.6 back in the day as a quick and easy bunny-hop script, and many cheat-detection plugins would auto-ban for it. I'm wondering if maybe the plugin would detect this, as well?
 
Xel'Naga said:
For science, you should try binding +attack to your scroll wheel and sliding it up and down really fast.

I know this used to be done in CS 1.6 back in the day as a quick and easy bunny-hop script, and many cheat-detection plugins would auto-ban for it. I'm wondering if maybe the plugin would detect this, as well?
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Says on the plugin's page that binding to the scroll wheel shouldn't produce a false positive.
 
Does this mean that typing "+attack" into console is cheating? I was unaware. Holding down mouse1 is not against the rules.... is it?
 
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