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Uncharitable Spy
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Hi,

I find the requirements for teamscramble quite high. Often there are assholes in the permanently winning team denying to votescramble for their cheap kills (even non-donators?). Some players then try to join the better team, which is a shame. Gameplay can become very frustrating, and the only way to deal with it is to leave the server. In my opinion, votes of the losing team should always be able to outweigh the refusing votes of the winning team. The minimum votes for scramble should not be 75% or something as on many servers. Pressing "1" or "2" (also "3") should not result in saying "no" (accidential mouse clicks...). Not voting at all should not mean "no", since there are always people who would not deny, but also would not vote pro scramble, since they were happy with their team winning (or simply were AFK).
 
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+1
A lower requirement for all of the votemenu commands would be nice, actually.
Because no matter how much you yell at them to kick somebody, some people just don't understand english.
 
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People who get it wrong can always use the !revote option
But yeah lowering it a bit couldn't hurt
 
+1
Also, didn't know there was a !revote option. Thanks for that tip, Toxic. Is there a way of getting that message out?
 
+1, I've been annoyed by votes not passing, that should have, far more frequently than votespamming; probably because of skial's excellent admin team. :)
 
It scrambles at the end of the round.
DUN DUN DUN. But to be fair I would say lowering it a little bit couldn't hurt maybe to 55%. I also say that if that vote does win the person who got the vote to pass cannot revote in 3 games to avoid some sort of spam.

so +1/2
 
This has been brought up several times. I would also like these improvements, but the fact is it would take a solid 20 hours of programming and probably a few days of testing on a server to make sure those modifications worked correctly.

I am too busy to work on such a large rewrite of the scrambling code. Not to mention that people also hate being scrambled.

Votescramble passes at 60%, not 75%. I think this is reasonable, but if everyone wants it at 50%, I can change it.

These are our gscramble settings.

http://code.google.com/p/tf2tmng/source/browse/trunk/gscramble/cfg/sourcemod/plugin.gscramble.cfg

gs_autobalance 1
gs_ab_unbalancelimit 2
gs_ab_balancetime 10
gs_ab_immunity 2
gs_ab_protect 3
gs_ab_timelimit 60
gs_teamwork_protect 60
gs_autoscramble 1
gs_as_fullroundonly 0
gs_as_hfragratio 3.0
gs_as_vote 1
gs_scramble_immune 2
gs_sort_mode 3
gs_as_playerscore_avgdiff 0
gs_as_minplayers 2
gs_vote_minplayers 2
gs_menu_votebehavior 1
 
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It does change my opinion a little, but would you want to be scrambled every single round? 60% is pretty reasonable passing level, imho.

Maybe I'll change it to 40% to see if it results in any complaints from the people that don't like scrambling?
 
I'd like to see it at 40%, based on what I've seen there definitely wouldn't be too much scrambling.