HowIMetYourMother

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Hello
i just wanted to post this tread because i saw on of the deathrun maps on saxton hale EU server isn't fully updated to the last version , there are still a few bugs in the currently version:
last version: http://www.gamebanana.com/tf2/maps/164951

and also, you can not play as scout on this map, but the maker/creator of the map says all the classes (exept spy) are needed to find secrets in the map. You should read the link that i posted!

Also , could anyone send an admin sometimes to this server (EU) , because I never seen one:)

greetz
 
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you shoudnt ask me mate..
because some people always keep voiting it, instead of playing saxton hale,oh wait
nobody actually votes for deadrun, it's that whenever a vote fails for a specific map; a random one gets chosen, for some reason it's always custom maps, and for some reason it always is deadrun.
 
nobody actually votes for deadrun, it's that whenever a vote fails for a specific map; a random one gets chosen, for some reason it's always custom maps, and for some reason it always is deadrun.

I ll check it nexttime, but im aware alot of new people on the server always vote this..
thanks sir
 
nobody actually votes for deadrun, it's that whenever a vote fails for a specific map; a random one gets chosen, for some reason it's always custom maps, and for some reason it always is deadrun.

I already told you that if the run-off vote fails, it chooses the map with the most votes anyway. That's why it always picks deadrun.

And deadrun is 1 person as a boss vs everyone else. You just use traps instead of your weapons.
That is similar to Saxton in my opinion.
 
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only played death runs a few times, but I had fun (that's probably why? I dunno)
 
I already told you that if the run-off vote fails, it chooses the map with the most votes anyway. That's why it always picks deadrun.

And deadrun is 1 person as a boss vs everyone else. You just use traps instead of your weapons.
That is similar to Saxton in my opinion.

that hasn't been always true, not so long ago if the 'winning map' didn't get more than 30~% of the votes, i map that wasn't even in the mapvote would be the next map, just yesterday has been the first time i've seen a map succeed with 22% of the vote.

also deadrun isn't similar to VSH, people who come into a server that says "versus saxton hale" expect saxton hale, not an invisible person behind a wall who could be a regular soldier for all we care because he just presses buttons.

i also don't see why deadrun was implemented to begin with, a lot of people on the forums are opposed to deadrun maps on vsh, whenever we require something we are supposed to vouch, be it maps or features; yet every now and then a boatload of bad, poorly-made and glitchy (deadrun in particular is still in beta, and can be exploited) maps gets added that nobody asked for. and when we want them removed we are supposed to vouch, and now even when there's a majority of people that want it to be a separate server (if deadrun had a map, people would also be pissed to play VSH because they didn't come in a deadrun server to play a different gamemode), it doesn't get implemented because you feel deadrun = vsh.
 
that hasn't been always true, not so long ago if the 'winning map' didn't get more than 30~% of the votes, i map that wasn't even in the mapvote would be the next map, just yesterday has been the first time i've seen a map succeed with 22% of the vote.

also deadrun isn't similar to VSH, people who come into a server that says "versus saxton hale" expect saxton hale, not an invisible person behind a wall who could be a regular soldier for all we care because he just presses buttons.

i also don't see why deadrun was implemented to begin with, a lot of people on the forums are opposed to deadrun maps on vsh, whenever we require something we are supposed to vouch, be it maps or features; yet every now and then a boatload of bad, poorly-made and glitchy (deadrun in particular is still in beta, and can be exploited) maps gets added that nobody asked for. and when we want them removed we are supposed to vouch, and now even when there's a majority of people that want it to be a separate server (if deadrun had a map, people would also be pissed to play VSH because they didn't come in a deadrun server to play a different gamemode), it doesn't get implemented because you feel deadrun = vsh.
Oh my god you are such an entitled child. If people aren't voting for the map you want you aren't going to get it. Fucking deal with it.

As far as what people expect, deal the fuck with it too. If they didn't like it then they could manage to, idunno vote for a not deadrun map.

Clearly everyone who plays on the server is going to come to the foums. Clearly people that are happy with the way things are need to come here and complain about the fact that they're getting what they want.

Jesus christ, if I were on a server with you and you tried to say something like OH GOD NOT DR, I WOULD VOTE DR, I WOULD VOTE FOR IT EVERYTIME. Because you're a prick who takes a custom game mode so fucking seriously.
 
Oh my god you are such an entitled child. If people aren't voting for the map you want you aren't going to get it. Fucking deal with it.

As far as what people expect, deal the fuck with it too. If they didn't like it then they could manage to, idunno vote for a not deadrun map.

Clearly everyone who plays on the server is going to come to the foums. Clearly people that are happy with the way things are need to come here and complain about the fact that they're getting what they want.

Jesus christ, if I were on a server with you and you tried to say something like OH GOD NOT DR, I WOULD VOTE DR, I WOULD VOTE FOR IT EVERYTIME. Because you're a prick who takes a custom game mode so fucking seriously.

deadrun isn't a map, it's a whole different gamemode; it irks me because when i go to an 24/7 payload server for instance, i would want to play payload, makes sense right? not be confronted with a different gamemode that just so happens to take place on a pl_ map, would you be surprised if people would get annoyed by that?

i do remember several threads requesting deadrun to be it's own separate server because deadrun and vsh are separate gamemodes, and it makes sense because people who come onto the server to play VSH don't necessarily want to play deadrun every waking hour of the day (which works vice versa too, people wouldn't want to come on a deadrun server and then all the sudden have to 'deal with it', 'it' being 24/7 actual VSH).

you would vote for DR to spite me because i'm a prick, am i specifically a prick (or an entitled child) because i propose that if your server says "24/7 arena" that it would be silly to change it into an wholly different gamemode 50%+ of the time? does it stem off the fact that it's because it's a custom game mode? are the complaints people made about this one issue not admissible just because it's about a custom game mode? would the complaint only be legit if it were to happen to stock game modes created by valve? indicating the voice of the people that play on your custom maps will be unheard of because they don't play on the same glorious 24/7 turbine server you do?

how many map-exclusive servers does skial run? http://www.skial.com/api/servers.php god damn that's a lot of 2fort (not to mention all the other maps and gamemodes), i wager when people see their precious 2fort only map change into a ctf_sawmill 50% of the time (which to be honest, is still the the same gamemode, we get an entirely different gamemode); you wouldn't tell them to 'deal with it' either, and why would that be? because it's stock? custom versus stock is a totally irrelevant argument to make, if you let that cloud your judgment then you are an elitist super-bitch.
 
i mean, look at this.

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payload servers are payload, orange servers are orange, thundermountain is thundermountain, upward is upward, surf actually has surf maps, goldrush has goldrush etc, the only servers that don't have what the server-name says is vsh, vsh doesn't have versus saxton hale, it has deadrun, a lot of deadrun.

deadrun isn't a bad gamemode, but it begs for it's own server, or for a server that incorporates a rotation of custom games. deadrun especially gets old because all the maps are in beta and tend to get exploited, gameplay involves a lot of waiting (notably; people wait for other people to man up and try and trigger a trap, that person usually dies and the rest will move on to the next trap, this going on for about 15 minutes and then the waiting game begins again once everybody is dead).
 
deadrun isn't a map, it's a whole different gamemode; it irks me because when i go to an 24/7 payload server for instance, i would want to play payload, makes sense right? not be confronted with a different gamemode that just so happens to take place on a pl_ map, would you be surprised if people would get annoyed by that?

i do remember several threads requesting deadrun to be it's own separate server because deadrun and vsh are separate gamemodes, and it makes sense because people who come onto the server to play VSH don't necessarily want to play deadrun every waking hour of the day (which works vice versa too, people wouldn't want to come on a deadrun server and then all the sudden have to 'deal with it', 'it' being 24/7 actual VSH).

you would vote for DR to spite me because i'm a prick, am i specifically a prick (or an entitled child) because i propose that if your server says "24/7 arena" that it would be silly to change it into an wholly different gamemode 50%+ of the time? does it stem off the fact that it's because it's a custom game mode? are the complaints people made about this one issue not admissible just because it's about a custom game mode? would the complaint only be legit if it were to happen to stock game modes created by valve? indicating the voice of the people that play on your custom maps will be unheard of because they don't play on the same glorious 24/7 turbine server you do?

how many map-exclusive servers does skial run? http://www.skial.com/api/servers.php god damn that's a lot of 2fort (not to mention all the other maps and gamemodes), i wager when people see their precious 2fort only map change into a ctf_sawmill 50% of the time (which to be honest, is still the the same gamemode, we get an entirely different gamemode); you wouldn't tell them to 'deal with it' either, and why would that be? because it's stock? custom versus stock is a totally irrelevant argument to make, if you let that cloud your judgment then you are an elitist super-bitch.
1. I've been on payload servers taht also run plr_ maps. I lol'd errytime it happened.

2. Then bring this shit up in the fucking MAKE A DR SERVER thread

3. I think you're a prick and a child because of you attempts to take the high ground in arguments while being a douchenozzle. How would I define a douchenozzle? Someone that brings up the same fucking point and argument into every thread that even looks like it might be a hale thread. This was not a fucking LET'S GET DR ON HALE thread. it was a fucking UPDATE THE MAP thread. DEAL WITH IT. Learn to keep your bullshit contained.

3b.
indicating the voice of the people that play on your custom maps will be unheard of because they don't play on the same glorious 24/7 turbine server you do?

I'mma call that a logical fallacy right the fuck there. I wish you could keep your stupid shit contained. Have you ever even seen me shit on someone for living in doublecross? Or even 2fort? I mean I dislike them both but I do not take it as far as you seem to want to say i do. O. o. better thing you could have said was that I don't take you seriously because you aren't american, or not a pony fag, or just a fag. Fucking stop acting like a brat.

4. So what? That is a whole lot of 2fort. 2fort doesn't change the map ever, that's on the tin. You know who has complained? People on the valve rotation server that dustbowl comes up too often. It's valve map rotation ,maybe it just stays on payload, THAT'S WHAT THE ROTATION DID. They would also get to DEAL WITH IT.

5. The reason i say you're taking this shit way too fucking seriously is because LITERALLY NOTHING IS GAINED from knowing these maps. Practicing on these servers is about the same as working on your aim ANYWHERE except for the fact that when push comes to shove you aren't getting into good habits. like i dunno, spychecking. Or playing a map.

6. lol, go ahead, call me an elitest super bitch. I. Don't. Care.
 
1. I've been on payload servers taht also run plr_ maps. I lol'd errytime it happened.

2. Then bring this shit up in the fucking MAKE A DR SERVER thread

3. I think you're a prick and a child because of you attempts to take the high ground in arguments while being a douchenozzle. How would I define a douchenozzle? Someone that brings up the same fucking point and argument into every thread that even looks like it might be a hale thread. This was not a fucking LET'S GET DR ON HALE thread. it was a fucking UPDATE THE MAP thread. DEAL WITH IT. Learn to keep your bullshit contained.

3b.


I'mma call that a logical fallacy right the fuck there. I wish you could keep your stupid shit contained. Have you ever even seen me shit on someone for living in doublecross? Or even 2fort? I mean I dislike them both but I do not take it as far as you seem to want to say i do. O. o. better thing you could have said was that I don't take you seriously because you aren't american, or not a pony fag, or just a fag. Fucking stop acting like a brat.

4. So what? That is a whole lot of 2fort. 2fort doesn't change the map ever, that's on the tin. You know who has complained? People on the valve rotation server that dustbowl comes up too often. It's valve map rotation ,maybe it just stays on payload, THAT'S WHAT THE ROTATION DID. They would also get to DEAL WITH IT.

5. The reason i say you're taking this shit way too fucking seriously is because LITERALLY NOTHING IS GAINED from knowing these maps. Practicing on these servers is about the same as working on your aim ANYWHERE except for the fact that when push comes to shove you aren't getting into good habits. like i dunno, spychecking. Or playing a map.

6. lol, go ahead, call me an elitest super bitch. I. Don't. Care.

1. yeah the difference between pl_ and plr_ is indeed dazzling, not that it really matters; there's a plr_ map now which doesn't run pl_ right?

2. you don't think in one of the few threads that were proposing to do something about deadrun maps; included the possibility of making a separate DR server? read the threads.

3. i corrected someone regarding votemaps, from then on bottiger corrected me, and i corrected him, and here we are. there are several threads where this 'bullshit' is contained, but after getting people to vouch for it; it just gets ignored, so there's that.

3b. how am i shitting on you? it's just that you seem to have a stance towards custom servers (i vaguely remember you not regarding orange very high, not that i regard it highly either, but it's an reoccurring theme), "Because you're a prick who takes a custom game mode so fucking seriously." what does pointing out it's a custom game mode have to do with anything? just seems to me you are using it as a pejorative, why would this problem not matter if it were on custom servers? just seems to me you don't really care for these problems because you don't play custom servers (at least, i've never seen you on vsh), if these problems were on your main server you would also try to do something about it, no?

4. that's what i'm saying, 2fort servers run 2fort, payload has exclusively payload maps etc; VSH is misleading because it's not VSH, it's deadrun. if it says so on the tin that the server you are joining is a payload 24/7 server, you don't get to complain about getting to play payload. why am i self-entitled again for joining a VSH server to actually play VSH; just to be confronted with DR again? that's not self entitlement, that's calling people out to get their shit together; if such a problem happened on any of your other 24/7 maps it would be fixed, not left with a laugh saying "lol custom maps who cares about those?"

5. i have no idea what you are talking about with the "LITERALLY NOTHING IS GAINED from knowing these maps". i figure playing deadrun maps a few times gives you knowledge where the traps are and stuff, i'm only taking this stuff "way too fucking seriously" because people also want to play the gamemode that is advertised on the tin, are people that join a payload server self-entitled children, pricks and/or brats because they want to play payload rather than ctf_ or whatever? sorry if i'm missing something obvious.

6. Well. I. Don't. Really. Either. But. You. Just. Kinda. Gave. Me. The. Vibe. That. You. Were. An. Elitist. Super-bitch. With. Your. Earlier. Statements.

i don't really expect you to know how VSH works (this gave me a red flag earlier: http://www.skial.com/threads/magic-box-magic-box-camps-until-he-is-the.13657/#post-136924), but in regular VSH you actually fight hale. in deadrun you run around in a linear corridor that is riddled with bugs and traps where an invisible person (this gamemode could work without hale) sits behind a one-way mirror pressing buttons to activate one-hit kill traps. the difference in gameplay is jarring and doesn't resemble one-another, vastly different gametypes for different audiences, i don't see why deadrun has to remain on VSH.
 
1. yeah the difference between pl_ and plr_ is indeed dazzling, not that it really matters; there's a plr_ map now which doesn't run pl_ right?

2. you don't think in one of the few threads that were proposing to do something about deadrun maps; included the possibility of making a separate DR server? read the threads.

3. i corrected someone regarding votemaps, from then on bottiger corrected me, and i corrected him, and here we are. there are several threads where this 'bullshit' is contained, but after getting people to vouch for it; it just gets ignored, so there's that.

3b. how am i shitting on you? it's just that you seem to have a stance towards custom servers (i vaguely remember you not regarding orange very high, not that i regard it highly either, but it's an reoccurring theme), "Because you're a prick who takes a custom game mode so fucking seriously." what does pointing out it's a custom game mode have to do with anything? just seems to me you are using it as a pejorative, why would this problem not matter if it were on custom servers? just seems to me you don't really care for these problems because you don't play custom servers (at least, i've never seen you on vsh), if these problems were on your main server you would also try to do something about it, no?

4. that's what i'm saying, 2fort servers run 2fort, payload has exclusively payload maps etc; VSH is misleading because it's not VSH, it's deadrun. if it says so on the tin that the server you are joining is a payload 24/7 server, you don't get to complain about getting to play payload. why am i self-entitled again for joining a VSH server to actually play VSH; just to be confronted with DR again? that's not self entitlement, that's calling people out to get their shit together; if such a problem happened on any of your other 24/7 maps it would be fixed, not left with a laugh saying "lol custom maps who cares about those?"

5. i have no idea what you are talking about with the "LITERALLY NOTHING IS GAINED from knowing these maps". i figure playing deadrun maps a few times gives you knowledge where the traps are and stuff, i'm only taking this stuff "way too fucking seriously" because people also want to play the gamemode that is advertised on the tin, are people that join a payload server self-entitled children, pricks and/or brats because they want to play payload rather than ctf_ or whatever? sorry if i'm missing something obvious.

6. Well. I. Don't. Really. Either. But. You. Just. Kinda. Gave. Me. The. Vibe. That. You. Were. An. Elitist. Super-bitch. With. Your. Earlier. Statements.

i don't really expect you to know how VSH works (this gave me a red flag earlier: http://www.skial.com/threads/magic-box-magic-box-camps-until-he-is-the.13657/#post-136924), but in regular VSH you actually fight hale. in deadrun you run around in a linear corridor that is riddled with bugs and traps where an invisible person (this gamemode could work without hale) sits behind a one-way mirror pressing buttons to activate one-hit kill traps. the difference in gameplay is jarring and doesn't resemble one-another, vastly different gametypes for different audiences, i don't see why deadrun has to remain on VSH.
1. Just like how vsh_ and dr_ are pretty much one guy vs the server. LOL, i dunno exactly the state of affairs of plr. I wasn't being passive agressive. I was giving you this this called AN EXAMPLE.
2. Oh my fucking god you really can't read what I'm saying can you? I'm telling you to keep your shit about making a dr_ only server IN THAT THREAD.
3+a. NEWSFLASH, you'll never see me! Because you're a euro! I'm shitting on you fucking specifically because you can't seem to keep your dick in your pants when it comes to anything related to vsh_. Shit, if this was a problem on a 'regular' server it still shouldn't be leaking from the suggestion thread born to address the issue.
4. Go read your own point one again. 'Shit, plr and pl are close enough' and yet you don't understand when people who won't ever play vsh_ think you're just being a whiner. hypooooocraaacy. Whatever.
5. No, i mean in the larger tf2 community. What options do you have to do something more challenging as far as play? Comp play. What maps are run there? Not vsh_ or dr_. If you're going to try to play in a competitive season after 'mastering' scout in vsh you are going to have a bad time. [insert meme picture]
6. aw. that's cute. You can manage to emulate me. What other tricks can the monkey do?

point number seven that's just a personal attack: I really hope you're like this irl all the time. I can just imagine how much aggravation you bring your mother and how few friends you have. Good luck growing out of this phase right here

lemme just make this big and bold now
I'M LEAVING THIS THREAD. IF YOU CONTINUE ARGUING WITH ME THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'VE WON. IT MEANS YOU'RE TALKING TO YOURSELF.