1. yeah the difference between pl_ and plr_ is indeed dazzling, not that it really matters; there's a plr_ map now which doesn't run pl_ right?
2. you don't think in one of the few threads that were proposing to do something about deadrun maps; included the possibility of making a separate DR server? read the threads.
3. i corrected someone regarding votemaps, from then on bottiger corrected me, and i corrected him, and here we are. there are several threads where this 'bullshit' is contained, but after getting people to vouch for it; it just gets ignored, so there's that.
3b. how am i shitting on you? it's just that you seem to have a stance towards custom servers (i vaguely remember you not regarding orange very high, not that i regard it highly either, but it's an reoccurring theme), "Because you're a prick who takes a custom game mode so fucking seriously." what does pointing out it's a custom game mode have to do with anything? just seems to me you are using it as a pejorative, why would this problem not matter if it were on custom servers? just seems to me you don't really care for these problems because you don't play custom servers (at least, i've never seen you on vsh), if these problems were on your main server you would also try to do something about it, no?
4. that's what i'm saying, 2fort servers run 2fort, payload has exclusively payload maps etc; VSH is misleading because it's not VSH, it's deadrun. if it says so on the tin that the server you are joining is a payload 24/7 server, you don't get to complain about getting to play payload. why am i self-entitled again for joining a VSH server to actually play VSH; just to be confronted with DR again? that's not self entitlement, that's calling people out to get their shit together; if such a problem happened on any of your other 24/7 maps it would be fixed, not left with a laugh saying "lol custom maps who cares about those?"
5. i have no idea what you are talking about with the "LITERALLY NOTHING IS GAINED from knowing these maps". i figure playing deadrun maps a few times gives you knowledge where the traps are and stuff, i'm only taking this stuff "way too fucking seriously" because people also want to play the gamemode that is advertised on the tin, are people that join a payload server self-entitled children, pricks and/or brats because they want to play payload rather than ctf_ or whatever? sorry if i'm missing something obvious.
6. Well. I. Don't. Really. Either. But. You. Just. Kinda. Gave. Me. The. Vibe. That. You. Were. An. Elitist. Super-bitch. With. Your. Earlier. Statements.
i don't really expect you to know how VSH works (this gave me a red flag earlier:
http://www.skial.com/threads/magic-box-magic-box-camps-until-he-is-the.13657/#post-136924), but in regular VSH you actually fight hale. in deadrun you run around in a linear corridor that is riddled with bugs and traps where an invisible person (this gamemode could work without hale) sits behind a one-way mirror pressing buttons to activate one-hit kill traps. the difference in gameplay is jarring and doesn't resemble one-another, vastly different gametypes for different audiences, i don't see why deadrun has to remain on VSH.