Declined What Happened To Dr_Horrors?!

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by samhunt12, Apr 4, 2018.

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Should dr_horrors be brought back?

  1. Yes!

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. No!

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  1. samhunt12

    samhunt12 Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    Horrors was one of the communities favourite maps and one day it just vanished from the map list, why?
     
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  2. Biggie

    Biggie Forum Admin Contributor

    Steam:

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  3. Windows95

    Windows95 Somewhat Threatening Sniper

    Steam:

    +1 I'd still give it a chance, it was played a lot back then.
     
  4. samhunt12

    samhunt12 Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    on eu deathrun (which is the one i play on) it never crashed once and people used to, more often than not, nominate and pick it. please can you add it back to the map list? because it was up there with cocainum, pirate adventure and bank as the most played on the server
     
  5. CallumDeGr8

    CallumDeGr8 Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight

    Steam:

    +1 The map clearly had a huge amount of effort into it and was pretty fun. Even if what Biggie said was true that it wasn't popular, I'd still like the map to be an option as not everyone wants to play the same maps over again. Issues with crashing I never recalled, I like this map and wouldn't mind it being back.
     
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  6. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Unpopular maps are removed because when they get voted in they kill the server population.

    That's why there's not a lot of options to choose from. It's either have lots of options and a dead server or few options of popular maps that keep the server alive
     
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  7. samhunt12

    samhunt12 Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    if you have fewer maps then that will kill off the server, people don't want the same maps over and over again because it gets predictable and boring, if you want the server to be more alive then you need to add more maps, i cant see how having more options makes the server dead. people can nominate and vote the maps they want so even if there are bad maps people wont pick them but they WILL eventually find the lack of variety boring. horrors was one of the maps that people enjoyed as far as i could tell, it was nominated constantly and enjoyed and never crashed once. if any map should be removed it would be a map like undertale, not one of the more popular maps.

    ive spoken in chat to alot of people who play deathrun and they say they miss horrors and are "confused and "disappointed" that its gone. please can you add the map back, if it keeps showing bad results then by all means remove it again, but i dont think it would hurt to add more maps to deathrun.
     
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  8. Link

    Link Truly Feared Pyro

    You can always suggest maps to be added
     
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  9. ckswarey the adware

    ckswarey the adware Rage-Inducing Forum Troll

    Steam:

    +1
     
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  10. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    We all want variation. No one is disagreeing with that

    But unfortunately unpopular maps statistically kill off server population now days.

    This isn't subjective either. Bottiger has pointed out many times in the past that unpopular maps have statistically proven to cause significant player loss. He knows this because he keeps a close eye on Skial's player traffic statistics as well as the statistical popularity of maps across the entirety of TF2

    When logged player traffic statistics are showing a unpopular map is causing a server to empty out the map has to go because its factually a dead map that's emptying out the server.

    Community servers are dying and have been dying for years now due to Valve forcing the overwhelming majority of the player base over to Valve servers making only the most popular maps sustainable.
     
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  11. dope

    dope Spectacularly Lethal Soldier

    Steam:

    tbh dr horrors was good
     
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  12. Windows95

    Windows95 Somewhat Threatening Sniper

    Steam:

    Yeah, it's true, but horrors isn't that unpopular anyway so it shouldn't really be a problem
     
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  13. dope

    dope Spectacularly Lethal Soldier

    Steam:

    It was very popular imo just not many people liked how cheesey it was
     
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  14. samhunt12

    samhunt12 Scarcely Lethal Noob

    Steam:

    =/
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2018
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  15. KinCryos

    KinCryos TF2 Admin Contributor Mapper

    Steam:

    we had to let Dr. Horrors go after his latest medical malpractice suit
     
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  16. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    The map used to be really popular but now its ranked 30+.

    You can argue that people wouldn't vote for a map they don't like and if they don't vote they don't care.

    However, the reality is that when an unpopular map gets voted in, most people will leave. Even people who don't vote will quit because they were too lazy to vote or they leave because everyone else left. That's why we need to be proactive in removing unpopular maps.
     
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  17. Costa_[PT]

    Costa_[PT] Somewhat Threatening Sniper

    Steam:

    I have to admit it had good traps but...There were alot of game-breaking bugs like...Avoiding the minigame, the mid door wont open if saxton hale is not there, saxton hale could kill you in the minigame and etc...
    We have to let old things go, and focus on new maps to help the community.
     
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