• If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.

Nicholas771212

TF2 Admin
Glad I wrote a note on the ban, (not sure if these links will work but hopefully they do).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821555045249114/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821587786002432/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821655100379136/unknown.png

This is the item in question - https://backpack.tf/item/9082826152 (Which looks like the item was now deleted)

Would you mind explaining what exactly was going through your mind at this point? As the pictures show, you not only misrepresented the item as festive (it's festivized), you also lied about when you got the item for whatever reason (If you say this is not the case I have physical proof you bought this item ON THE DAY you attempted this). I would also like you to explain why you cancelled the trade once you were called out.
 

Nug

Unremarkable User
Glad I wrote a note on the ban, (not sure if these links will work but hopefully they do).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821555045249114/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821587786002432/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/712080379762442311/891821655100379136/unknown.png

This is the item in question - https://backpack.tf/item/9082826152 (Which looks like the item was now deleted)

Would you mind explaining what exactly was going through your mind at this point? As the pictures show, you not only misrepresented the item as festive (it's festivized), you also lied about when you got the item for whatever reason (If you say this is not the case I have physical proof you bought this item ON THE DAY you attempted this). I would also like you to explain why you cancelled the trade once you were called out.
ok a few things here i never cancelled the trade they just never responded , i was never called out , i didn't know the diference of festive and festivized i will admit this second idk why but i never bought that item on that day is was like 2 days ago (and i never "attempted this") but i will admit i was wrong and i am new to trading.
 

Nicholas771212

TF2 Admin
i didn't know the diference of festive and festivized
This is understandable, basic assumption was used as I have seen many people use this exact excuse not only for festive/festivized, but also on the rarer items, as they try to pass it off as craftable when its uncraftable (For example, look at price differences between craftable and uncraftable lucky no. 42).

idk why but i never bought that item on that day is was like 2 days ago
https://backpack.tf/item/9082826152, this is the history of the item, this shows the exact time it was sold and bought by you. If this item was bought as you said 2 days ago, would you care to explain why the history clearly says it was owned by a trading bot named Oliver until Sun, 26 Sep 2021 02:32:38 +0000, which was the same day I received the report of this attempt. https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199084784906#!/compare/1632528000/1632614400, this compare shows the differences of items going in and out of said persons inventory, which as you can see, on Sept. 26, that specific festivized minigun left his inventory.

After some further research, it appears the reasoning behind the late date (or time period between owning and buying the minigun) may be due to the odd rate of updating your backpack in bp.tf. From Sept. 18 until Sept. 25, there are no archived loadings in-between said dates. which makes it appear you bought and resold it in the same day. It appears both me and the person who alerted me of the oddity of this potentially being a scam, made this mistake. Re evaluating this situation, it appears that you may have bought it 2 days ago as you have said and it is simply due to loading that is the issue. I do not have a hard time believing that you are genuinely a new trader and did not understand the differences between festive and festivized, nor is it unreasonable to assume you simply did not understand the value of your item. It is unfortunate however how common this specific scam is, and how often I have seen it attempted, which made me assume that you were in fact trying it.

I will unban you, as it does seem the reasoning behind mispricing your item was not due to a scam attempt, but rather a lack of information.

Sorry for the inconvenience, enjoy the servers.