Revised Racism Rules

Discussion in 'News' started by Bottiger, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    [​IMG]

    After a few days of trying to let the players decide how they want to handle racism on the servers, we have received complaints that cases of racism were not being dealt with. There were also players spreading false information that racism was now allowed.

    In order to bridge the gap between those that feel we are too lenient and those that feel we are too strict, we have drafted some new rules which hopefully everyone will be satisfied with.

    Here are the new additions to the rules.
    • Racism
      • Racial slurs or stereotypes are not allowed.
      • However, you may use the term "nigga" without negative words or stereotypes. Examples of negative words include but not limited to: dumb, bad, hate.
    • Other Discrimination: Any persistent discrimination based on gender or religion is not allowed. What qualifies as persistent will be determined by an admin.
     
  2. Salty Mcpepperson

    Salty Mcpepperson Truly Feared Pyro Contributor

    Steam:

    A compromise has been made.
     
  3. Auto-Tree

    Auto-Tree Somewhat Threatening Sniper

    will you reban/mute people who's ban/mute was lifted from racism rule?
     
  4. Sakiko

    Sakiko TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    Good
     
  5. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    If 'nigga' is allowed in a non-negative context, does the same apply to 'nigger' being used in a non-negative way?

    Not trying to be nit picky, just want to make sure I understand all of this correctly
     
  6. Biggie

    Biggie Moderator Contributor

    Steam:

    The n-word with er at the end is never considered friendly
     
  7. Defibyoulater

    Defibyoulater Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    This respects those who have felt comforted by skials anti-discrimination rules for so long and also preserves a player base who seeks a certain leniency. (This will help hold both populations)

    Oh, and to be fair, although we all laughed at that suggestion: Fairnessplease did practically suggest this a while ago.
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2017
  8. KillerZebra

    KillerZebra Forum Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    so?
     
  9. Whip_Cactus

    Whip_Cactus Sufficiently Lethal Scout

    How does this apply to "nigga" and "nigger" in songs?
     
  10. Sargent¥

    Sargent¥ Trade Moderator

    Steam:

    If the song uses those words in a harmful context, we punish for it. However some songs don't so we dismiss it and leave it to the server to mute as spam if they deem it spam. If it includes the n word with no harmful context and a vote is made against them for racism, that's votemenu abuse.
     
  11. SnowyDevil

    SnowyDevil Uncharitable Spy Contributor

    Steam:

    To me the word nigger is never friendly. I can understand if they use nigga in friendly way but nigger is just racist.
     
  12. Xerox

    Xerox Sufficiently Lethal Scout Contributor

    Steam:

    The word "nigger" can be used in a non-racist way if used objectively to prove or explain a point. For example the sentence "He said "nigger" is not racist in itself. Either way the usage of the word "nigger" is not permitted on any Skial servers, be it with racist or not racist intentions.
     
    Last edited: May 11, 2017
  13. Whip_Cactus

    Whip_Cactus Sufficiently Lethal Scout

    Alright, thank you.
     
  14. Luke

    Luke TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    I'd just straight up not use or say anything containing any form of the n-word.
    As far as I'm aware, ANY usage of the n-word ending in "er" can get you silenced.
    Using the n-word just ending in "a" will get you silenced if it is offensive (per rules).
    This should transfer to songs, "er" never allowed, "a" allowed in a friendly way.
     
  15. Whip_Cactus

    Whip_Cactus Sufficiently Lethal Scout

    Avoidance seems like the best method in that case, helpful.
     
  16. courtsnort♩♪♫♬

    courtsnort♩♪♫♬ Legendary Skial King Contributor

    Steam:

    Calling a vote for racism instead of spam in certain contexts being punishable as abuse is pretty stupid and confusing. Everyone has a different view of what negativity is
     
  17. Sargent¥

    Sargent¥ Trade Moderator

    Steam:

    That's true but there's a clear line between being negative and just saying the word
     
  18. courtsnort♩♪♫♬

    courtsnort♩♪♫♬ Legendary Skial King Contributor

    Steam:

    if someone uses the word at all, it should be up to server discretion. It's not right to tell users they have to be okay with a racist word just because they loopholed it into a certain context
     
  19. DaivdBaekr

    DaivdBaekr TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    People do this?
     
  20. courtsnort♩♪♫♬

    courtsnort♩♪♫♬ Legendary Skial King Contributor

    Steam: