1. It's wrong to think bashing other maps will redeem the one you like to others (since that's actually the topic here). It's not relevant, not with this little detail anyway. And I say that as a Waterrun disliker myself.
2. Your suggestion or the point it's making aren't very different from the usuals : praising one or several maps you like and bashing one or several maps you dislike without an objective reasoning or an interesting subjective one (which means other than "it's good keep it" or "it's bad remove it").
3. The community has indirectly been listened to, like it or not, the map wasn't picked enough.
4. Refer to 3. I know a guy who's a fan of the map and yet it couldn't save it if himself, your pals and you are the exception more than the majority. I'm a fan of Technoir, I know others who are, the map has been removed nonetheless, I'm pissed but I know I have no power if the map doesn't have the playerbase's favor, as frustrating as it is.
5. Refer to 1 and 2.
6. Refer to 3. The map isn't inherently bad, on the contrary, I liked the execution and you can feel the mapmaker's massive effort at every corner, but it's too long, has no respawn option for the minigames to reward players waiting, is very hard, even unfair, with a trying Hale, even with a full server or skills. It's not a map fit for a server with 30 minute long rotations and a rather casual playerbase.
7. Chipper is a melting pot of memes in a corridor, which makes it comparable to Office. Office wins just because of the replayability and the many "secrets" leading to runners / Hale interaction, which is why it's one of the most popular maps. Minigames are indeed good in Chipper, but it's not worth much if no one reaches them.
8. You need to give credit to people's opinions, or at least to be a little more convincing if you want to afford telling them their opinion isn't worth much. And even if you're gonna reason like that, how about you take dee jay's opinion since he's currently ranked second this season ? Or mine and Trooper's too, but maybe it's not worth much if we're only ranked #16 and #11 respectively ?
9. Lostzones has been removed too. And I think Chipper had been around for longer than Lostzones if we're talking about giving a chance to a map. I have no idea about the point this is trying to make. In any case, you can refer to 1 and 2 too.
10. See 7 + its loss, pits are a banger concept 🙃
This long answer may seem pointless but I wrote it nonetheless for a simple reason, kinda derivated from my second point : I wish deathrun feedback didn't always seem so caricatural or childish. This kind of thread looks more like a temper tantrum than an actual debate or attempt to bring the map back. Sometimes, there are actual things to discuss on this forum, say, a map removal for a bug, adding new maps to refresh the rotation, etc., but I feel like this kind of thread doesn't help our playerbase being taken seriously and even discredits it for those times we actually have to make serious suggestions. So for our community I love very much, a little effort, please.
