Map update for Bottiger's 24/7 Idle

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Jermaphobe, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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    Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all. As a regular to Bottiger’s 24/7 Idle for the past 3 years, I’ve been on the server quite a lot and have experienced a lot of fun times on the server. But as of late I’ve come to noticed some players becoming bored of the map. Achievement_idle_awesomebox9. When I’ve asked a few of those players why they’re getting bored. It’s either because of the flaws of the map or the lack of things to do on the map. You can make the argument that it’s an idle server meant for idling. But people come onto the server for more than just idling these days.

    I've asked these players what about the map they have problems with/would like to see implemented.
    A lot of answers I got were bug fixes. toggle-able doors between the two spawn rooms (which can be activated by their respective team), and expanded battlements, and new buildings.

    Little over a year ago, I obnoxiously made a suggestion thread requesting a map change for the idle server. Bottiger commented that awesomebox9 could use an update, but could not see anything better overall

    Even if we couldn't get any new features implemented, it would be nice for awesomebox9 to get an update.
    Not expecting some drastic map overhaul or change not at all. I also gathered an amount of supporters for the idea. I'll post the list in a comment to this thread. I will also link to the old post in case anyone wants to fact check the quote above
     
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  2. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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    List of Supporters:
    Kamui (Jermaphobe, me)
    ?BitchDontKillMyVibe?
    [S.I.B.] mikej ?
    Kritty-crayon
    kin0
    Death (Nightfall121)
    [R] mooffinman | ?²
    TheDude ©
    Stoned Iron
    Shakespeare
    Steelfox
    B A C O N
     
  3. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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  4. Mr. Socko

    Mr. Socko Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

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  5. 【ちんちん】 CHINCHIN

    【ちんちん】 CHINCHIN Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

    Steam:

    If anything bring back that old map kin made years ago, that was fun and good lookin. Otherwise leave current map be pls
     
  6. Meowcenary

    Meowcenary TF2 Admin Contributor

    Steam:

    There was a updated version added awhile back that had better spawns IIRC and some other stuff, but people didn't like it so it got quickly removed
     
  7. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

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    People didn't like that version, and I agree with them. It changed the map too much while not really adding much gameplay. And it didn't look good to be honest.
     
  8. 【ちんちん】 CHINCHIN

    【ちんちん】 CHINCHIN Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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    uwot that map was hella nice. Youre talking about kin's map right.
     
  9. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

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  10. Mr. Socko

    Mr. Socko Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    @Jermaphobe
    I am linking the map you provided in the older post, let me know if you are still okay with the map. I think that map would be a good choice for the idle server.
    http://gamebanana.com/maps/185723
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  11. Aero

    Aero Sufficiently Lethal Scout

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    i Remember playing this map on my friends server. i Would love to see this as a map for the idle server
     
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  12. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

    Steam:

    I've played the map in a singleplayer and have found some bugs and issues. It looks nice however. The author of this map has commented on some of these issues.

    "-Karts arena **_MUST_** stay closed if not in major use, as a glitch can occur which allows players to somehow kill a random player in the map, both with a spell and by crashing into them.

    -Map performance is occasionally unstable, getting laggier than acceptable when the server is full.

    -Guillotines can be thrown through the karts lobbies' windows. They cant get very far, but it may impact gameplay.

    -Pyro Tennis should have more ammo packs and no health packs.

    -HHH is still broken--I advise against spawning him."

    I've found a few issues on my own.
    - Portals to both teams' spawns are easily accessible. However, the spawn teleports players to just outside the room where the other team actually spawns, granted they are in Awesomebox9. But you have to get to Skybox, in which many people don't how to get there or don't care for it. Mod author has said this about the spawn portals "Players are MEANT to be able to access the enemy's spawn. This map was made for a semi-friendly clan server, so ease of access to the other half of the main area doesn't really affect anything. This was a feature in the old map too, though slightly harder to access due to camps."
    -Kart room has a toggle switch for the portal to the kart arena which can only be reached by noclip, only the admin can reach it pretty much.
    -Image Distortion in Soldier platform

    Now how I see these issues I've found can be fixed
    -The "ADMIN" teleport would need to be removed or moved somewhere it wouldn't be easy to get into the other team's spawn
    -Kart Room stays shut off or have the toggle for the portal to the arena removed
    -I have no experience map making or editing


    I'll provide some screenshots for further insight on what I am talking about
     
  13. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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  14. Aero

    Aero Sufficiently Lethal Scout

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    i Heard. theres a secret room where it makes your character tiny. idk if they still have that
     
  15. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

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    I will explore the map a bit more to see if what you say is true. If it is I don't how I would really feel about it
     
  16. Jermaphobe

    Jermaphobe Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight Contributor

    Steam:

    Don't believe there is such a room, if there is I could not find it.


    I would really like an Admin's opinion on this map candidate and all the things I've pointed out about the map.

    Map change would be nice, but wanted an update to awesomebox9 originally