Cream Tea

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Can you spot the odd one out?
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Did you spot it? If you spotted a. then you are correct! If you didn't spot a then let me explain why!

It's because I was the poster of a., but the rest were posted by other users and are therefore100% constructive and either supportive or unsupportive.

I'm confused as to why you even commented at all. What's the point if you haven't seen him in servers? Are you implying that because he's not on when you're on, he's inactive? Your comment is not constructive nor supportive/unsupportive. Always when people +0, there's reason behind it. Your reason is literally nothing.
Yeah how dare I post in an admin application my own views on the applicant, I'm such a mega 1337 troll apparently.

Even the judge himself @Sargent¥ said that "Literally none of [what I said] was constructive" even though everybody is allowed to post on an admin application to give their own personal views and opinions of the applicant. Unfortunately this line was said in the unmoderated section and cannot be quoted directly.
 
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Xantam

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Sadly I probably will be banned again just for calling out a hypocritical skial admin...
Then deal with that situation in a PM. I don’t feel like calling out an admin in a public forum is the right way to go about things ..
 

Blade D_Hero

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If you post +0 in an admin application your post should be deleted. If you want to leave feedback without saying +/- 1 then just do that. Otherwise, don't post.
 

Cream Tea

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If you post +0 in an admin application your post should be deleted. If you want to leave feedback without saying +/- 1 then just do that. Otherwise, don't post.

But I didn't just post +0 did I? I posted a little bit of reasoning with it. And if so then why haven't other posts been deleted that literally say the same kind of thing.
 

Metroidz

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If you post +0 in an admin application your post should be deleted. If you want to leave feedback without saying +/- 1 then just do that. Otherwise, don't post.

^this. Imagine if my dumbass posted in admins apps of randoms I've never even heard of. I literally haven't booted up tf2 since like 2016.

I'm only on skials forum for the furry porn and shit talk.
 

Blade D_Hero

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But I didn't just post +0 did I? I posted a little bit of reasoning with it. And if so then why haven't other posts been deleted that literally say the same kind of thing.
I said should be. That doesn't make it a rule. Also, your post hasn't been deleted and you didn't get a warning for your post. All anybody did was voice their opinion that YOUR opinion was unnecessary.
 

Cream Tea

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If somebody just says "+0" and nothing else then I'd agree, but I didn't just say +0 I said I can't give a solid answer but I think he's not bad.

I've seen Xantam a fair few times in 2fort but definitely not enough to say I know the user that well hence can't give a +1, but I also said I didn't think he was a bad user which is more constructive than just posting "+0".

I said should be. That doesn't make it a rule. Also, your post hasn't been deleted and you didn't get a warning for your post. All anybody did was voice their opinion that YOUR opinion was unnecessary.

I definitely think people should post more than just two symbols, same for +1 or a -1 they should at least give a small reason so as to see any bias. And yeah I wouldn't expect it to be deleted or get a warning because it didn't break any rules.
 

Luke

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Ooh, missed this thread.

I'm not a hypocrite because I didn't dumb rate you for giving a +0.

Gave you the dumb rating for saying:
My comment is as constructive as the people who comment and don't even play the game anymore.
 

Sargent¥

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Can you spot the odd one out?
SxPauSY.jpg


Did you spot it? If you spotted a. then you are correct! If you didn't spot a then let me explain why!

It's because I was the poster of a., but the rest were posted by other users and are therefore100% constructive and either supportive or unsupportive.


Yeah how dare I post in an admin application my own views on the applicant, I'm such a mega 1337 troll apparently.

Even the judge himself @Sargent¥ said that "Literally none of [what I said] was constructive" even though everybody is allowed to post on an admin application to give their own personal views and opinions of the applicant. Unfortunately this line was said in the unmoderated section and cannot be quoted directly.
I guess since you still care, let me debunk:
  1. b was not Jermaphobe's fault as Johnny linked the wrong chatlog. The +0 was a merciful (and unintentional) -1, maybe he realized the logs wasn't Sniffy's but yeah, there could've been more to that comment. I won't disagree.
  2. c has criticism, "but your chatlog pulled it down" literally means his chatlog needs work, that's criticism
  3. d is a friendly +1, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at by referencing it
  4. e is a -1, if you look at Defib's +/-1s, he very frequently uses creative +/- comments, like +defib for example. The number doesn't matter, it's the +/- that do (unless it's a 0).
  5. f is criticism as well, he doesn't have issues in the user but sees a lack of effort in the application with no reports
  6. g is the same as f, Luke wants to see reports
  7. h is criticism, he wants backing to the application and sees a lacking of it
Once again, your post isn't criticism. Telling him you haven't played with him isn't criticism, telling him he just clocked 200 hours isn't criticism (he met the requirement, we don't ask for more) and saying he's an alright guy isn't criticism. I'm not sure why you're turning this into a personal vendetta but realistically, considering all your mistakes in the past, idk why you're even allowed to post in that section.
 

Cream Tea

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on and sees a lacking of it
Once again, your post isn't criticism. Telling him you haven't played with him isn't criticism, telling him he just clocked 200 hours isn't criticism (he met the requirement, we don't ask for more) and saying he's an alright guy isn't criticism.

So it has to be criticism now? All I did was post my view of the guy in his application which is what you are supposed to do.

I had played with him a few times, not enough to give a solid +1 but enough to say he doesn't seem bad the times I have played with him.

I'm not sure why you're turning this into a personal vendetta but realistically, considering all your mistakes in the past, idk why you're even allowed to post in that section.

Because I'm allowed to post my views on the applicant, just like anybody else on this forum. I think it's you who has the personal vendetta here.
 
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White Moose

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If youre going to invalidate a post such as neutral posts then you should also invalidate the posts from people whove been inactive in tf2. that should include admins who only file reports like glorified receptionists
and make it an explicit rule against neutral posts and inactive members.
no implied garbage that sargent is spewing out
seems like the admin team is more full of despots these days
 

Sargent¥

Australian Skial God
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So it has to be criticism now? All I did was post my view of the guy in his application which is what you are supposed to do.

I had played with him a few times, not enough to give a solid +1 but enough to say he doesn't seem bad the times I have played with him.
Criticism / Constructiveness or if it's supportive / unsupportive, again, even throwing another word in the listing, your post in the application is useless and you literally just said why it's useless. There are literally no views other than "he's an alright guy", which is pointless to the application
Because I'm allowed to post my views on the applicant, just like anybody else on this forum. I think it's you who has the personal vendetta here.
I've no personal vendetta against you but you're not making it any better by borderline flaming Luke and I in the public forum when this conversation was moved to unmod after the app. Luke literally had nothing to do with this so idk why you dragged him in even when all his +0s are valid.
If youre going to invalidate a post such as neutral posts then you should also invalidate the posts from people whove been inactive in tf2. that should include admins who only file reports like glorified receptionists
and make it an explicit rule against neutral posts and inactive members.
no implied garbage that sargent is spewing out
seems like the admin team is more full of despots these days
If you're going to tell me that admins, people who have gotten the position and know the specifics of what an applicant needs to the core, shouldn't be commenting on apps, then I'm at a loss for words.
 

Cream Tea

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There are literally no views other than "he's an alright guy", which is pointless to the application.

Saying he's an alright guy is still constructive. It means I don't think he'd cause any trouble.

I've no personal vendetta against you but you're not making it any better by borderline flaming Luke and I in the public forum when this conversation was moved to unmod after the app.

This is a general conversation in the general section.

Luke literally had nothing to do with this so idk why you dragged him in even when all his +0s are valid.

Just like my "+0" was valid? I only had him as an example.