[Let's Get Political] What form of government do you prefer?

[Tomatketchup]

Communism is not a dictatorship, it is closely related but is not of the same subsidy.

In practice you can essentially say that communism is a dictatorship.

 

[HowIMetYourMother]

Read what I said before taking conclusions, communism is a great idea, a perfect theorie about how to run a country.The only problem are the humans who actualy live in it. From the moment there is 1 person that wants more power/money/bitches, the system fails.

And really, I don't really have the feeling of living in a democracy. Even I go vote and i'm told my vote counts, the money and the power will always lead the country.

 

[DeathSod]

In practice you can essentially say that communism is a dictatorship.

Im gonna study communism in more depth then come back here.

 

[DeathSod]

In practice you can essentially say that communism is a dictatorship.

From what ive read, the major difference between communism and dictatorships is that Communism is a Economic system, and dictatorships are Government institutions. In this way of thinking, you can be under the institution of communism AND have either a dictatorship or any other kind of government. You could be a Communist democracy if you wanted to.
Comparing communism and Dictatorships is like comparing a dollar bill to the president (Simplified metaphor.)

 

[Rvsz]

they spent £3million pounds to bury that cunt Thatcher, full state funeral, they got the papers to edit in people lining the streets to justify what they had spent, no fucker turned out for it NOONE, the whole country hated her, the only ones there were her family and the tory party..

 

[Tomatketchup]

From what ive read, the major difference between communism and dictatorships is that Communism is a Economic system, and dictatorships are Government institutions. In this way of thinking, you can be under the institution of communism AND have either a dictatorship or any other kind of government. You could be a Communist democracy if you wanted to.
Comparing communism and Dictatorships is like comparing a dollar bill to the president (Simplified metaphor.)

Just because they're two seperate things doesn't mean you can't connect the two with each other. Communism works like this: Revolution, one-party system that takes care of everything until everything works on it's own, and then the party lets go of the power and everyone works in this harmonic anarchy. So basically, communist democracy is impossible, only heavily modified communism would work. The democratic communism you're looking for is called socialism.

 

[Pinker-tan]

direct democracy is best democracy\

oligarchy is pretty gud 2 tho

 

[DeathSod]

Just because they're two seperate things doesn't mean you can't connect the two with each other. Communism works like this: Revolution, one-party system that takes care of everything until everything works on it's own, and then the party lets go of the power and everyone works in this harmonic anarchy. So basically, communist democracy is impossible, only heavily modified communism would work. The democratic communism you're looking for is called socialism.

I just want to point out that I never once said that you can't connect the two, they definitely correlate with each other in most cases, but in the ACTUAL theory of Communism, the nation is COMPLETELY lead by the people. Albeit that has never actually been practiced.

 

[Tomatketchup]

I just want to point out that I never once said that you can't connect the two, they definitely correlate with each other in most cases, but in the ACTUAL theory of Communism, the nation is COMPLETELY lead by the people. Albeit that has never actually been practiced.

That's what I said. The final phase of communism is when the nation is completely lead by the people, but to reach this utopia communism needs to insert a one-party system in order to make sure everything works before the state can let go, and that's why in practice communism is a dictatorship.

 

[TheNotSid]

standardized tests to determine intelligence is a dumb idea

 

[TheNotSid]

idk the thought that "only the educated" have a voice is really elitist and fucked up idk

 

[hXcjedders]

idk the thought that "only the educated" have a voice is really elitist and fucked up idk

I agree. The smartest people sometimes cannot figure out the simplest solutions. I'm more of an intelligent person, yet some of my friends that are less intelligent than me have seen much easier solutions to things that I was overcomplicating. Even if you are not intelligent you can still contribute good ideas. In fact, part of leading a country does not require any sort of intelligence at all.

 

[mittens]

Totalitarianism is the best.

 

[TheNotSid]

"Teaching to the test" is replacing good teaching practices with "drill n' kill" rote learning. A five-year University of Maryland study completed in 2007 found "the pressure teachers were feeling to 'teach to the test'" since NCLB was leading to "declines in teaching higher-order thinking, in the amount of time spent on complex assignments, and in the actual amount of high cognitive content in the curriculum." [11] [12]

 

[TheNotSid]

i could be just used to american standardized testing but it was all "memorize this shit and it's practically word for word on the test" and didn't really add up to intelligence just going through the motions.

 

[Tomatketchup]

I agree. The smartest people sometimes cannot figure out the simplest solutions. I'm more of an intelligent person, yet some of my friends that are less intelligent than me have seen much easier solutions to things that I was overcomplicating. Even if you are not intelligent you can still contribute good ideas. In fact, part of leading a country does not require any sort of intelligence at all.

Isn't that a fault of the parliamentary democracy as well though? If anything, a technocratic direct democracy widens the amount of people who can have a direct impact on society. A technocracy only assures that science classes does not incorporate creationism for example.

 

[staticvoid]

"Teaching to the test" is replacing good teaching practices with "drill n' kill" rote learning. A five-year University of Maryland study completed in 2007 found "the pressure teachers were feeling to 'teach to the test'" since NCLB was leading to "declines in teaching higher-order thinking, in the amount of time spent on complex assignments, and in the actual amount of high cognitive content in the curriculum." [11] [12]

We were taking about government systems, not tests...

 

[TheNotSid]

Isn't that a fault of the parliamentary democracy as well though? If anything, a technocratic direct democracy widens the amount of people who can have a direct impact on society. A technocracy only assures that science classes does not incorporate creationism for example.

"it only assures that the elite class of perfect humanoids do not taint their sweet brainlust with the infertile voice of the simpletons"

 

[TheNotSid]

We were taking about government systems, not tests...

I believe in a technocratic direct democracy, the educated (who's considered educated is determined by a national test) directly votes about matters that span the entire nation, local matters are directly voted on by the local educated..

if a type of government requires a test to have a voice in said government then i think the tests have 2 be part of the conversation

 

[Tomatketchup]

"it only assures that the elite class of perfect humanoids do not taint their sweet brainlust with the infertile voice of the simpletons"

I guess you could put it that way if you like overdramatizing.

if a type of government requires a test to have a voice in said government then i think the tests have 2 be part of the conversation

My thoughts. It would be laid out like the Swedish Scholastic Aptitude Test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Scholastic_Aptitude_Test) which works very well in the Swedish education system.