WhatAmI

Uncharitable Spy
Name dxp, Berserker, Nerf_The_Recruit, Roadman Leader, Sardinha

Summary Baby Face Blaster Exploit

SteamID
[U:1:1009897658]
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/[U:1:1009897658]
https://stats.skial.com/#summary/player/SteamID/All/[U:1:1009897658]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:1009897658]
https://www.skial.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=commslist&advType=steamid&advSearch=[U:1:1009897658]

When did this happen? About 5 Minutes ago.

Which server did this happen on? Deathrun EU

Any other information
Intentionally abusing the ability to hurt hale at the beginning of dr_ancient_memes to exploit Baby Face's speed boost
Sardinha was afk but still using the BFB, so i don't know if that still counts.

Demo File

dxp: [U:1:1009897658]
Berserker: [U:1:1033501977]
Sardinha: [U:1:60648946]
Nerf_The_Recruit: [U:1:266904388]
Roadman Leader: [U:1:128347121]
 
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KalashnikovA

TF2 Admin
Contributor
Can you explain more about this exploit and how it works? I see some scouts running, but I don't see Hale or how they are doing damage to him at the beginning of round.
 

WhatAmI

Uncharitable Spy
Here's an example of the beginning of the map from when hale's hp was broken, you can directly damage him while he cannot move, which makes you charge up the BFB's meter, thus allowing you to get a speed boost and making the game unfair for both hale and players wanting to finish the map.
The same issue happens in any fight minigames, it allows scouts to outrun hale and stall the round till they bump into something by accident.
EDIT: I've also made a suggestion a month ago about restricting the weapon, but nothing has been done about it.
 
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KalashnikovA

TF2 Admin
Contributor
I've played this map a few times, but not enough to know every exploit well. I have a few more questions so that I can understand what is happening.

1) Does every scout gain a speedboost, even without doing damage? In other words, if 1 scout does damage out of a group of 4, do all 4 scouts still get the speed boost? I see that Sardinha is a scout, but I don't see how he is using the BF speed boost since he is afk. If he gains an ability becuase other people exploit, isn't around to use the exploit, it doesn't make sense to ban him.

2) I see that roadman is a scout, but he doesn't appear to be running with the other 3 scouts. How is he exploiting or stalling the game?

3) Just so this is clear to me, the 3 scouts running are moving faster than they normally would because of the speed boost?

4) Does this happen at the beginning of every round and minigame?
 

WhatAmI

Uncharitable Spy
1) No, they have to individually do the damage, no scout can give another scout a boost, they have to equip the BFB themselves and damage hale in order to gain it, i put Sardinha's ID just in case since he had it equipped and might have been using it prior to the demo.

2) That is a fair point actually, i assumed he was planning to do the same by having it equipped, i apologize.

3) Yes, way faster than a normal stock scout should run along with any other class.

4) Yes, because people tend to abuse it, it's well known and that causes even more people to use it after seeing the others do it.
 
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