Declined Change Saxton pyro airblast back to 20 ammo

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by uppe-r, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    WTF airblast now requires 40 ammo!?!?!?
    OUTRAGEOUS
     
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  2. Feral Angel

    Feral Angel TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    Pyro is dumb anyways
     
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  3. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    And now i just tried it on another round, and it took 20 ammo? wtf?
     
  4. Defibyoulater

    Defibyoulater Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Was it first non-vsh round that was 40?
     
  5. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    pretty sure it was first vsh round, since i died immediately (vsh_egyptyspot) with a sniper headshot.
     
  6. Defibyoulater

    Defibyoulater Gaben's Own Aimbot Contributor

    Steam:

    Yeah, I think for first round guns are reverted to normal settings. I unno what pyros airblast takes in general since I dont play bad classes

    But it could be just warm up, then when vsh kicks in it goes to 20 ammo per airblast
     
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  7. soos

    soos Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight

    Steam:

    -1
     
  8. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    It is supposed to be 40 and I am not changing it back to 20.
     
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  9. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    ._. limiting pyros to 5 airblasts without picking up ammo. Makes top kek sense...

    Then you question yourself about why the vsh servers are getting emptier...
     
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  10. Feral Angel

    Feral Angel TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    Nah, that’s the least of the servers “problem.” I see it as a perfect fit because how abusive and how annoying is purple can be towards hale.
     
  11. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    That's pyro's purpose. Doing damage, being annoying, defending others. Airblast is super needed

    Also, several people told me they won't come back to skials saxton because of the recent changes
     
  12. Feral Angel

    Feral Angel TF2 Admin

    Steam:

    Then state the problems? The only “problem” you have whined about is the ammo for airblast. If you really want to help bring up the number count, ask your friends about what changes they would like to see fixed. Don’t just say they won’t come back until the changes are fixed, instead provide what are the problems. Nergal would gladly fix it too.
     
  13. uppe-r

    uppe-r Positively Inhumane Poster Contributor

    Steam:

    people like Darkian did. other people just gave up on the server really.
     
  14. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    Yes it makes sense because no one except pyro mains are complaining about it.

    Hales are too weak, they lost 90% of the time which is why no one wants to play hale anymore and everyone keeps typing !resetq and !noboss. That is the sign of poor balance.

    I looked at quite a lot of gameplay and noticed one huge problem is that airblast can prevent hales from touching anyone for a very long time. Several people didn't like it when rage per airblast was increased so we are doing increased airblast cost instead and the only person that complained about it was you.

    The EU Saxton servers were already this low back in September before we changed to VSH 2 so your claim that it is making everyone leave is not credible, along with the fact that a lot of players have said they are playing Halloween on casual.
     
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  15. soos

    soos Notably Dangerous Demo-Knight

    Steam:

    another small reason why no one wants to play hale, is because its boring as hell (being a ff2 player) you need some sort of verity to have fun playing hale. (my opinion on the topic)

    and also having airblast be double the current ammountbis great, it actually makes the pyro think about pressing the fallowing set of keys:

    m1 for about 3 seconds
    m2
    (loop 8 times)
    run away using detonator to grab ammo

    loop until solo, or he screws up and gets punished for it. (don't forget the couple pf people he's gonna airblast hale into during all of this)

    heres your results
    - 1 - 3 dead teammates
    - less then 1k damage
    -hale has gotten about 95% of his rage while losing about 5% of his total health

    made for everyone
    not to eat.

    PyRo Is FuN cLaSs To PlAy
     
  16. Bottiger

    Bottiger Administrator

    Steam:

    I really don't think this is a main reason. Otherwise most people would not be playing Saxton Hale instead of Freak Fortress. If people get tired of the same bosses, then why aren't they tired of playing the same classes?

    I can see how new bosses can make playing boss more interesting, but that is just a bandaid and not a real fix. We can't add a new boss every week and most Freak Fortress servers have died out because they kept adding bosses until the download times and balance was complete trash.

    The win rate for Hale is really bad. It was like 10% before I tried to fix it, and even now I sometimes see scores like 0-8 Hale.
     
  17. Ijikaru

    Ijikaru Truly Feared Pyro

    Steam:

    As I told you approximately 412 893 times. You destroyed the players experiences by spamming m2 for literally 10k hours of your life on skial.

    The nerf is totally deserved, I made a post to increase the rage per airblast about 2 months ago because every single players were complaining about your <3 <3 <3 gameplay and people playing like you. All you did after this nerf is being even more annoying on the servers spamming m2 so much that the hales would literally have a rage every minute bcuz of ya and your "skilled" pyro gameplay. Now if you need a tissue you can take one and try to think about the players experiences you aren't the center of the world.
     
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  18. Brimp

    Brimp Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    You realize pyros are annoying with 20 ammo for airblast right? Its needed if each one gives nearly 10%. No one likes fighting against pyros because air blast is the only thing they know how to do as pyro. I rarely see pyros get more than 1k on hale before they give him 3 rages worth which is around 5000 damage with the changes to how much damage you need to take to get rage. Plus I find more pyros tend to airblast the hale into their teammate more than anything.
     
  19. Metroidz

    Metroidz Australian Skial God

    Steam:

    You guys realize this is declined and the OP is trolling right?

    Right?
     
  20. Brimp

    Brimp Mildly Menacing Medic

    Steam:

    Ik but i still want to make a point, trolling or not
     
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