Approved Bring back steamworks to tf2 deathrun

Billygoat

Billygoat

Uncharitable Spy
Steamworks was a great map which actually felt like a challenge, and it is so upsetting that it got removed with no reason. it would be lovely if we got to play the map just one more time on this server. so if you could please bring back steamworks to tf2 deathrun
 
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Ciaran

Ciaran

Scarcely Lethal Noob
I'd also like to add my input on this. If Wintervalley was brought back, then why can't Steamworks be brought back either? If I recall correctly they were both removed at the exact same time for the exact same reason (unpopularity). Now I see Wintervalley played quite frequently, compared to actually underplayed maps such as R60D, Home Sweet Home, and Manor (the last of which is only voted by trolls SOLELY to be exploited on via stalling as Hale due to 10/10 map design).
 
Prismo

Prismo

Sufficiently Lethal Scout
Contributor
+1
It should be noted that, yes, while there are people who leave the game due to the server picking a difficult map, for the most part, the US servers always remains highly populated despite the map being something shitty (not pointing fingers but uhhh dr_meme_factory), as @kerpkek and @Awes previously mentioned. Not everyone is on the server purely just because they want to enjoy a map they prefer, the interactions within the community itself should also be taken into account.
 
kerpkek

kerpkek

Somewhat Threatening Sniper
So with the explanation of "it's unpopular" being given as the reason for removal, why has dr_school_run now been added back into rotation? That map is almost universally despised by everyone and was rtv'd far more than normal
 
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Bottiger

Bottiger

Administrator
Crinitus_ said:
I'd also like to add my input on this. If Wintervalley was brought back, then why can't Steamworks be brought back either? If I recall correctly they were both removed at the exact same time for the exact same reason (unpopularity).
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Because it regained some popularity when it was being run on servers outside of Skial. It is still at the bottom of the popularity list and it is probably likely to be removed again.

kerpkek said:
So with the explanation of "it's unpopular" being given as the reason for removal, why has dr_school_run now been added back into rotation? That map is almost universally despised by everyone and was rtv'd far more than normal
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dr_school_run was added back because I tried to replace it with https://www.skial.com/threads/dr-return-dr_school_redux-due-to-the-major-update.84520/ which had severe problems due to it being made by BadToad.

After I removed dr_school_redux I forgot to add dr_school_run back. It wasn't unpopular enough to remove yet.
 
Noahfresh

Noahfresh

Mildly Menacing Medic
Actually, Winter Valley is still being played a lot, I've seen it a lot more than a lot of other maps at this point like school run, walkway, r60d and even Lazytown, which was one of the most popular maps a while back. Not to mention that Dust and Manor are universally hated by a large portion of the community, only nominated by trolls or players who don't know the maps. I'd say it's a good time to add Steamworks back as the harder maps are starting to get popular again.
 
kerpkek

kerpkek

Somewhat Threatening Sniper
I see wintervalley selected far more often than manor, school run, R60D, cyberpunk, home sweet home, or psykopat 2
 
Prismo

Prismo

Sufficiently Lethal Scout
Contributor
We're still arguing yet I think the point that was overlooked was the fact that the US server almost never runs low on players. You could add in a map that literally has no textures and there would still be at least 20 or so players online. From my experience within Skial's deathrun servers over the years, I can say that (reiterating my previous point) under no circumstances will the servers go completely barren if something like Steamworks is picked.
 
Noahfresh

Noahfresh

Mildly Menacing Medic
Jermaphobe said:
People thought the same thing about 2Fort+ LA and it lost its main playerbase
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By adding Steamworks literally people wouldn't care. It's a hard map and people like that, but when you add shit like Dust or Manor with the trap where you can't get past unless hale activates it, people start getting mad and leaving. The playerbase of dr won't suddenly disappear once it gets added, since there are always other maps. With something like 2fort+, if they don't like the map then they have to leave since you can't rtv that.
 
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❤ Alice-Chan ❤

Mildly Menacing Medic
Personally, I don't see an issue with adding it back to atleast test and see how it would fare against other maps. I mean surely there are some maps that actually never even get played so I don't think its fair to think that most maps dont get people leaving if they arent even played.
 
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