chairius✿

Wicked Nasty Engineer
FF2 Balancer
I can't even begin on why this boss is overpowered...

1). His superjump
2). Disguising
3). His rage
4). His amount of HP

Let me explain, and for starters, if you ask anyone who is a regular on the FF2 server, they will agree 100% on removing this boss...

Now, his superjump, it makes him fly so high in the air, at 100% charge i can touch the skybox on vsh_urban_works_final2. Any more explanation?

The disguise ability is too overpowered in the first place, whenever he rages, when he gets his gun, if he disguises and stands near an Engineer's dispenser, he can max out his ammo to 24 shots, letting him fire 30 times on a gun that can 1-shot the lighter classes (ie : Scout, Engineer, Medic, Sniper, and Spy). And, the disguising function is not an ability many bosses have on ANY server at all, so it can catch new people on Skial's FF2 off guard. I have also seen on multiple occasions where a Medic can Ubercharge Spyro when he's disguised, giving him invincibilty and crits, something a boss that can 1-shot a demoknight with 4 heads without crits does NOT need. Also, he's got a Spy model which allows him to take our teleporters. Bad for Engineers with an exit teleporter

His rage, don't even get me started. Invisibilty, REALLY? No need to explain. A HITSCAN weapon with INFINITE SHOTS if there is an Engineer with a Dispenser. And 9 fire damage for a bosses rage can easily take out any lighter class with just the afterburn.

And lastly, with about 20 people, he gets 20k HP for a boss with ALL these abilities. I have seen about 2 other posts requesting to remove SPYRO. You removed Neo, our favorite meme boss we all loved. We didn't care that he was bad, most of us used him to meme, like most people use the Bison to meme. Sorry, off topic. Anyways, nobody likes fighting this boss because he's just way too overpowered, and if anyone decent gets to play as him it's just not even worth trying to fight this boss. Please remove S P Y R O.
 
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purpleguy107

Scarcely Lethal Noob
Spyro Is The Boss For Those Who Are Tryards And That Is True He Is Way Overpowered So I Recommend That You Should Remove Him And Maybe Add Bonk Boy As A Replacement
 

Ultra Mann

Mildly Menacing Medic
If they nerfed his super jump, Removed the fire dmg, lessened the amount of health he gets, and made it so he cannot collect ammo from dispencers (Although the last part may not be possible) I would be ok with him as a boss. Im fine with his ability to disguise as REDs but im annoyed at the fact that anyone who has a sense of what is going on can play spyro and win with close to 10k hp left. Just saying With the super jump, on any map with an open roof, he can get from his spawn to the REDs spawn in a matter of 1 super jump and half of the time you will not even see him because he is disguised as a RED. Also if i were to make any changes I would replace him being able to disguise with having a type of cloak, although people would then just think of him as a buffed version of the predator boss from the same mode. So, don't remove him, just nerf him.
 

Blade D_Hero

Moderator
Contributor
Hasn't played TF2 in over a month (don't believe has ever played Freak Fortress with the Spyro being a playable boss)
Ed you don't even play Freak Fortress
Has no record of playing Freak Fortress (at least in the last month)

How are you guys about to voice your opinion on shit you don't even play? Granted I haven't played FF since beginning of June, but at least I was around for the addition of the Spyro and he is pretty broken in his current state so I'm all for a nerf. At least don't let him get additional ammo from dispensers (if possible).

+1 for a nerf
 
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Meowcenary

Gaben's Own Aimbot
Contributor
The other suggestions probably didn't go anywhere because of lack of feedback

I'm not saying you're not providing enough feedback, rather there's only a very, very small amount of players who come to the forums who give feedback on these threads

You could help this by making the other players aware on the server that you created this thread and ask them to give their input on the matter

The reason why feedback is so important is because it helps Bottiger make decisions on these matters. If its apparent the general player base on the freak fortress servers want this boss gone, he'll likely remove the boss. But first he needs to see people don't like the boss and generally agree he's OP

So if you can, link this thread when ever you're playing and ask people to come comment on the thread
 

Percilius

Totally Ordinary Human
Contributor
FF2 Balancer
Well most of the people who play on this server always choose this boss. I guess the only reason they consider him op is because of his ability to disguise and his rage being too good ( maybe even better than vader's ). I wouldn't suggest removing him but if we can remove the huge burst of flames he releases whenever he rages ( which do 9dmg per second ) and remove his ability to disguise he would make a good boss which people won't actually whine about.
 

Ed_

Positively Inhumane Poster
Contributor
Ed you don't even play Freak Fortress


How are you guys about to voice your opinion on shit you don't even play? Granted I haven't played FF since beginning of June, but at least I was around for the addition of the Spyro and he is pretty broken in his current state so I'm all for a nerf. At least don't let him get additional ammo from dispensers (if possible).

+1 for a nerf
You can't say someone's not played FF, when all I used to play was FF2 and was an admin on a server which only hosted vsh and ff2 gamemodes.
 

Percilius

Totally Ordinary Human
Contributor
FF2 Balancer
What if I lower the hp on the boss, would that be suitable?
That would be great. Also can you remove his ability to disguise. This would also fix the problem with him getting ammo from the dispensers.
 

KinCryos

TF2 Admin
Contributor
Mapper
That would be great. Also can you remove his ability to disguise. This would also fix the problem with him getting ammo from the dispensers.
so would good old-fashioned spy-checking. no decent player would risk hundreds of HP for a bit of ammo
 

Percilius

Totally Ordinary Human
Contributor
FF2 Balancer
so would good old-fashioned spy-checking. no decent player would risk hundreds of HP for a bit of ammo
One single bullet of his kills every class except heavy. Also I don't think spy checking would stop him from taking ammo. All he needs to do is go stand next to a dispenser regardless of someone shooting him. Any decent player would win as spyro by losing 10k health at maximum.
 

Mino✿

Mildly Menacing Medic
how is having around 19 people in the server and only having 3k hp as spyro to fight doable?
yeah, he can disguise and all but when the server is actually on guard, theres no way on winning
literally one medic and heavy can just solo spyro with no problem at all
 

Mino✿

Mildly Menacing Medic
honestly, Spyro is actual shit now, but like Hatsune Miku, Spyro is just a glass cannon, low HP but high firepower
unlike spyro, hatsune miku can actually win
itd be better if spyro has the same amount of hp miku has
glass cannon or not, spyro is trash in its current state rn