Declined (VSH) Suggested map: vsh_yammoe_v4

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Meme Tea ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) said:

I can't say I've played, let alone heard of the map before. But it looks interesting, though I'm not sure about this "mini-crit buff".

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its just for when your in the beam itself. Nowhere else on the map. So to get it you have to be in the middle of the map where you can be hit from above,below, or hale can use the railings all over to super jump and bounce to the reds in it. Also your eng spots don't work there since it moves and turns off all the time. Hales can literally wait 20 seconds for it to turn off.

The mapper said his maps are not often played outside of his server. I believe its a matter of exposure not popularity here. He made the map in your rotation pruvia,nebula,and made several other good maps like Teul, reiltas_hills, moving_in .

Bottiger said:

The map is 8 months old and hasn't really made any traction anywhere else given the stats.

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Also you act like people actively look at new maps in vsh? How many maps are know that have been made in the last 8 months anyway?

If you base it off game banana stats of the 3 maps made by pigpig 2 of these maps are in your map rotation as it is. (Pruvia,Nebula)

---Pruvia: 3,397-----669------1 year
--Nebula: 2,683-----563------11 months
Yammoe:2,298-----695-------8 months
-------------Views----DL's------Date added
DL=downloads
Yammoe has the most downloads and is very similar in its timeline in total views. How is it lacking in the stats then @Bottiger ?

Bottiger said:

Downloads is not related to how many players like it.... at all. As I explained to you before, we know how popular every map is, and unfortunately yammoe is quite low. If his map was popular, it wouldn't matter if it was only played on his server, people would have flocked there.

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This was the closest asnwer you gave me about how the stats work let alone how to reach them

Bottiger said:

The stats work like tf2stats.net... except that it works. tf2stats.net stopped collecting stats many years ago.

There is nothing left to personal opinion or shortcomings with our private stats system if that is what you are asking. It records all public TF2 servers in existence.

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The stats of tf2stats have been beyond busted for years, let alone how it even used to function? Who else has access to the private stats besides you so it is actually "we"? Can you help me here so I know what maps to look for ????

Change of pace feels required, what do I need to do that persuades you? Get a bunch of people here in the forums to +1 it? Get the players of vsh to show +1's? Please tell me.

Bottiger said:

For brand new maps, we will give them a try if they look exceptional, because they obviously wouldn't show up in the stats. But only if they are truly exceptional.

I will get around to seeing if any of those maps are truly popular, then they will be added.

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A brand new map in vsh is a map under a year old so this should apply. How many maps do you even know of that are under a year old? nebula? Two years? Only egyptyspot is commonly known.

You only have 1 map under 1 year of age with nebula at 11 months. Of the 18 maps I could find the age of, the mean of the maps was 4.66 years old (18/24-26 maps total) (years 84/18 maps=4.66). 8 Months compared to 56 months is pretty new/old. So why are you looking at popularity numbers when you said it yourself about new maps?