XenoMorphin' Power Ranger
Somewhat Threatening Sniper
Commonly on the server we discuss that having Hoodoo and Goldrush in the rotation would be beneficial. Is this something that can be accomplished?
Declined Skial Payload+ US Requests Hoodoo and Goldrush
- Thread starter XenoMorphin' Power Ranger
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Are you proposing changing PL US into a Rotation US, or into adding a new server for all the rotation maps you suggested? If the former, I would not agree with ruining something that's going well to test if something "might" be what people like, whereas adding new PL maps to PL US does not alter PL US; it just enhances it.
Pilsner
Scarcely Lethal Noob
I support this request. Please add more payload maps. We can vote from a larger list when we "rtv". I's like to see Metropolis too. TN has a great Payload Rotation selection. You could mimic their list.
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XenoMorphin' Power Ranger
Somewhat Threatening Sniper
Thanks for trying out hoodoo. We are glad to have our voices heard. Hope to see Pipeline and Nightfall tested as well. It may be worth considering the alternitive barnblitz as well.
Tyknighter
Positively Inhumane Poster
Not a new sever but you guys are the admins of Skial so I guess that option is now out however putting in maps that are costom made might be a good idea.
Bot makes the decision, not us admins. We all have as much input as you do in situations like this. I just think changing something that's working to something unproven is a dumb idea and may anger regulars, which is not what we cater to lol
Tyknighter
Positively Inhumane Poster
Don't take my bluntness as rudeness, but none of you guys know what you're talking about.
I've been in the same boat, asking for maps to be added in based off anecdotal evidence and support from a small handful of regulars thinking a map will fill if brought back. Bottiger disagreed, I disagreed with him, he gave the maps a chance and each time Bottiger ended up being right; the maps filled poorly and he had to remove them every time. I've seen the cycle repeat itself with others many times, not on just maps but other issues too and Bottiger ended up right almost every time.
It took me awhile to get it through my head that Bottiger knows his stuff inside and out and most of us players truly have not a damn clue about how these things work. The guy who has ran TF2's largest server community for 8 something years now and ongoing is going to have a lot more knowledge than us.
Because of this we need to have some faith in Bottiger. If he says a map will likely not work out, chances are high he's right. It's our inexperienced opinion, anecdotal evidence, and maybe a small handful of regular's support versus the experience and opinion of someone who has access to game wide statistics, 8 years of experience managing TF2's most successful server community, and he has managed to keep Skial up and well populated despite Valve doing their damned best to kill community servers.
If we (the players) had our way on everything Skial would be dead right now.
I've been in the same boat, asking for maps to be added in based off anecdotal evidence and support from a small handful of regulars thinking a map will fill if brought back. Bottiger disagreed, I disagreed with him, he gave the maps a chance and each time Bottiger ended up being right; the maps filled poorly and he had to remove them every time. I've seen the cycle repeat itself with others many times, not on just maps but other issues too and Bottiger ended up right almost every time.
It took me awhile to get it through my head that Bottiger knows his stuff inside and out and most of us players truly have not a damn clue about how these things work. The guy who has ran TF2's largest server community for 8 something years now and ongoing is going to have a lot more knowledge than us.
Because of this we need to have some faith in Bottiger. If he says a map will likely not work out, chances are high he's right. It's our inexperienced opinion, anecdotal evidence, and maybe a small handful of regular's support versus the experience and opinion of someone who has access to game wide statistics, 8 years of experience managing TF2's most successful server community, and he has managed to keep Skial up and well populated despite Valve doing their damned best to kill community servers.
If we (the players) had our way on everything Skial would be dead right now.
Players often prefer to leave a map they dislike rather than stick around to play it.
Losing player traffic to unpopular maps makes it harder to keep the server consistently full
Bottiger
Administrator
Unfortunately Hoodoo has crashed the server twice today already and none of you had reported it.
SysError: ED_Alloc: no free edicts
Map started 613 seconds ago
Restarting pl_hoodoo_final
edict 1917 top 2047 entities 1917 top 2047
310 - path_track
116 - keyframe_rope
107 - tf_wearable
98 - info_player_teamspawn
94 - prop_dynamic
94 - env_soundscape_proxy
66 - point_spotlight
66 - spotlight_end
66 - beam
64 - tf_viewmodel
59 - env_sprite
56 - func_areaportal
55 - func_lod
54 - instanced_scripted_scene
52 - move_rope
40 - func_door
38 - env_lightglow
33 - tf_ragdoll
30 - tf_flame
26 - tf_ammo_pack
20 - info_observer_point
SysError: ED_Alloc: no free edicts
Map started 613 seconds ago
Restarting pl_hoodoo_final
edict 1917 top 2047 entities 1917 top 2047
310 - path_track
116 - keyframe_rope
107 - tf_wearable
98 - info_player_teamspawn
94 - prop_dynamic
94 - env_soundscape_proxy
66 - point_spotlight
66 - spotlight_end
66 - beam
64 - tf_viewmodel
59 - env_sprite
56 - func_areaportal
55 - func_lod
54 - instanced_scripted_scene
52 - move_rope
40 - func_door
38 - env_lightglow
33 - tf_ragdoll
30 - tf_flame
26 - tf_ammo_pack
20 - info_observer_point
Tyknighter
Positively Inhumane Poster
So 2 crashes in one day sounds odd well guys I guess we are out of luck and all maybe who knows what TF2 has got in stored for us next till then we will see what happens.
Bottiger
Administrator
I really do wish Valve would fix this, but having a server crash is a really easy way to kill a server. And our 32 slot servers are more populated and active than others which is why you may not have noticed crashes anywhere else. But given the fact that none of the regulars here reported any of those 2 crashes, I am quite sure that this also happens on other servers even if you personally haven't noticed it.
XenoMorphin' Power Ranger
Somewhat Threatening Sniper
Sad to hear about it crashing. Big thanks for at least letting us try. Would it be possible to try adding Pipeline and Nightfall to test? They could be a good option to add some variety to the server.
The only problem is that pipeline and nightfall are Payload Race maps, not Payload maps, afterall it is supposed to be just a Payload rotation server.
Bottiger
Administrator
I just watched Payload+ US go from 30 players to 1 right when the map changed to pl_metropolis_b5, so I will be removing that.
We have a new experimental fix for 32 slot goldrush. It appears to be working for now, but the server reloads the map when it is out of edicts. Most people seem to stay when this happens compared to a crash though so we will leave it on for now.
We have a new experimental fix for 32 slot goldrush. It appears to be working for now, but the server reloads the map when it is out of edicts. Most people seem to stay when this happens compared to a crash though so we will leave it on for now.
Tyknighter
Positively Inhumane Poster
Wait so Metropolis will be removed I find that odd of you saying people were leaving that map is good I don't get it.
Tyknighter
Positively Inhumane Poster
Another thing I should add that Metropolis is a very popular map. The people that left to go to bed for work in the morning, get off cause they wanted to switch games. I don't think people hate the map.