pr1mus da scr1pt
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especially when you point out and correct people on multiple occasions that you have a vagina, that stuff brings out the misogynist in me.
New and being harassed? Who are these people?
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If you are not the person that was banned/muted, you are only allowed to post evidence. Trash talk is unnecessary.
to be completely fair the only way I can get people to stop bitching AT OTHER GIRLS some days is to say, very clearly on mic in the girliest voice I can manage, "OH SHIT YOU HAVE A VAGINA. ME TOO. OMIGOOOOOOOSH"
That usually fixes it.
![[TC]CreepingDeath](/data/avatars/m/0/26.jpg?1352268746){kind=avatar}
Well, if you're not doing anything overly derpy and trying to learn the game then what you do is this...
Tell them that *I*, [TC]CreepingDeath, said that they need to go fuck themselves... Gently... With a rusty chainsaw.
If they don't like that then they can add me to their friends list and whine to me about it. Here's the link: http://steamcommunity.com/id/gilmourd3/
Tell them that *I*, [TC]CreepingDeath, said that they need to go fuck themselves... Gently... With a rusty chainsaw.
If they don't like that then they can add me to their friends list and whine to me about it. Here's the link: http://steamcommunity.com/id/gilmourd3/
Misogyny pisses me off.
I love when people say things like "Get back in the kitchen!" then, say, Elle (who is quite the girl) struts in as a Genocide/Scrambles-class Heavy and mows them over causing them to CRY SOME MORE!
pr1mus da scr1pt
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if what happened to here is cyberbullying, then the majority of people on the internet ought to be in jail.
people should grow some internet balls
People should learn how to be friendly. Excuse like "it's the Internet, dude" sucks. In my opinion, people can not be different in RL and on the Web - there is no such thing as double-personality. If you're badmouthing on the web insulting and offending people, most likely you are doing the same in the RL.
Just my opinion though. And just so you know, search the Google for punishments for cyber-bullying. You will be surprised how many people got charged for it already. All these laws are relatively new so not all cyber-bullies have been punished yet. But it's coming.
Again, it's my opinion and you can feel free to disagree.
TheAsian
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Still My Point is Valid, I have yet to see your reason for disagreement on Cyber bullying. Not just this thing against Zawadi. Sure we all can grow internet balls. Theres a Fine line between being an Asshole for Fun, and Threatening someone. Growing some internet balls doesn't change anything.
pr1mus da scr1pt
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if you believe that anonymity doesn't change someones behavior over the internet, then you are just blind and (maybe blissfully) ignorant of that fact. such a thing provides gateways to express your feeling or opinion, being anonymous just empowers you to act differently than you would irl because there aren't much repercussions (except for the hip and edgy "cyber-bullying law") for not having any manners. (besides, what this guy was doing is hardly the norm for cyber-bullying, people really stress that one occasion where somebody committed suicide because his post-secret gay sex leaked on the internet.) i'm really not opposed to people "learning to by friendly", but people should be able to cope, a quality this person is lacking severely.
just like pirating laws, how many people actually steal stuff IRL? in comparison with what people download for free? it's pretty minuscule. not to mention how often you will get caught, haha.
i don't see how your point is 'still valid' (your point hasn't been valid to begin with), if cyber-bullying gets to you then you should just take a break from the internet, especially in this case where somebody is just an oversensitive nancy on the issue that pleaded she got harassed by a "dangerous stalker" because he said some tasteless, unimaginative typical teenage shit you can expect over the internet.
but yeah, considering this kid acted like a tough guy over the internet, he must be one IRL as well, that's why he's in TF2 talking shit against strangers to begin with, yeah?
(btw i didn't see this kid threaten anyone, where did you read that?)
roll up in the fetal position with a bucket of icecream and cry myself to sleep?
TheAsian
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This topic is going off from what it should be. To you this is some nancy shit. Fine. To us we actually look at it from the reporter's eyes. Valid as in Cyberbullying won't be tolerated. That is fact now. This kid just could be a neglected individual in life, and he's directing his anger and frustration to another person on the internet.
To you this maybe nothing at all except some hurt feelings. Thats how you look at it.
To us we look at it that way also, but with a chance that this person who is shooting these "tasteless" words you call it, something a little bit more concerning. If its tasteless then nobody would report it no?
I get these type of shit heads that you are saying are doing nothing all the time. They throw racial slurs at me all the time, but the way they do it is "Tasteless" in many cases where I'm not bothered by it. Theres a fine line between "Tasteless" and threatening. You may not see what is threatening but the person who is offended might be. Don't think everyone is as big and badass as you are.
Oversensitive or not, People don't go on to the internet and expect to handle everything like a badass. To be honest, Some of these people that are "Nancy" as you call it, probably live with respect and peace IRL. So these people on the internet live behind a screen where they can mask their emotions and take advantage of anyone.
CyberBullying should not be tolerable. Thats my Point.
To you this maybe nothing at all except some hurt feelings. Thats how you look at it.
To us we look at it that way also, but with a chance that this person who is shooting these "tasteless" words you call it, something a little bit more concerning. If its tasteless then nobody would report it no?
I get these type of shit heads that you are saying are doing nothing all the time. They throw racial slurs at me all the time, but the way they do it is "Tasteless" in many cases where I'm not bothered by it. Theres a fine line between "Tasteless" and threatening. You may not see what is threatening but the person who is offended might be. Don't think everyone is as big and badass as you are.
Oversensitive or not, People don't go on to the internet and expect to handle everything like a badass. To be honest, Some of these people that are "Nancy" as you call it, probably live with respect and peace IRL. So these people on the internet live behind a screen where they can mask their emotions and take advantage of anyone.
CyberBullying should not be tolerable. Thats my Point.
TheAsian
Sufficiently Lethal Scout
Whereas your point has some logic in it, I have to point out that multiple attempts/discussions/debates are currently being held to review the principle of "anonymity" on the Internet. I personally encourage solid tracking and reporting mechanisms that would allow tracing the offender/cyber-criminal down.
I had been working at Comcast for almost two years as a Security Analyst and I can assure you that even if you are using proxies, VPNs and other precaution mechanisms to hide your identity - you still can be traced back. That's why I'm saying that once cyber law is implemented and enforced none proxy in the world will protect you from from being traced. If you cyber bully somebody up to the point when individual commits a suicide (God forbid) - simple warrant from the police will be enough for ISP to release all information about you and provide a detailed log of your Internet activity. It's almost impossible to hide yourself anymore. You might object saying that you'll start using Chinese and Russian proxies - that will not be the case since IANA already maintains the list of all known proxies and simple web filtering and ACLs will be able to restrict your access to these proxies easily.
You have to remember at all times that people are different and not everyone is immune to bullying (either RL or cyber), and people may act different. Also, in my humble opinion, cyber bullies look pathetic since it looks like they would never try to bully somebody up in RL just because they are scared and they know they might get punched right in their ugly faces... It just proves that cyber bullies are usually nothing in RL and by bullying people up on the Web are trying to maintain/feed their low self esteem. People like that also usually get no respect neither in RL nor on the Web.
pr1mus da scr1pt
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what is this topic exactly straying off of? if you truly believe this is cyber-bullying (note that it stresses repeatable offenses, this is just act #1) then you should take it up with the police, and they'll probably tell you whether this person is just a drama queen or not.
and yes, to me this is just a person who just got their feelings hurt and exaggerated about it, if you agree with the person filing this report that she has significant emotional-traumatic stigma because somebody made a dead-mom joke, alongside being haunted by this "dangerous stalker" as she puts it, then you should make a suggestion to implement a "no insulting"-rule on the servers, other wise you'll have no case to justify anything regarding the shit-talking.
she could've gotten a good case if she made the report regarding the 7-or so votemenu votes he called on her, as that's actually against the rules, instead it's a big show and dance about some guy acting like a dick.
in what regard would you call the person out for "threatening" though? grow some skin. you don't go on the internet to expect everything will be around pink unicorns, rainbows and kittens sliding off said unicorn into an ocean of chocolate milk. you have to take account some people will be out there to not pertain to that illusion you have created for urself. shrug it off, if someone calls you a chink or a gook; deal with it for the moment and get them a ban.
it isn't like people are like "wow i'm going to spend my free time cyber-bullying someone, let me mask my identity, browse in TOR and sit behind a dozen proxies", cyber-bullying is a bit cryptic because i wouldn't be surprised if the person that got reported here just didn't think much of what he said (which i could agree with, how many times do get affected whenever calls you a douchebag over TF2?), cyber-bullying stresses "deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner.", i would say the manner would be hostile, but seeing it's his first time dealing with someone (and to be honest, how many times do you see people give someone shit because they're bad at the game? i know i'm guilty of frequently calling people out for being useless and not being credit to team) i would argue it wasn't a repeated occasion, nor would i say the person was deliberately trying to 'cause' something, other then temporal butthurt which people will get over.
in all, the guy was acting like a dick; big show and dance about it; would've been better to screenshot the votemenu abuse and give him a temp. ban for that. if you maintain that this person has suffered under all of this to justify it as cyber-bullying, bring it to someone who cares, or like i said: make a rule about it on the server.
The other day when you got reported for harassment, you behavior fits this definition of cyber-bullying provided by you perfectly, since your "your mom" jokes were "deliberate, repeated, and hostile".
This thread is not about you, anyway. I'm not your father, neither I'm your mentor to teach you some manners. Neither I'm one of those to this kid who was bullying the OP here. I just have my strong opinion on this matter and personally, I would've banned cyber bullies on the fly. Bottiger is too liberal to implement the rule about bullying and I do see his point somewhere. He cares about servers' population and assumes that people can handle their personal conflicts by themselves. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.
